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[Closed] NL100 FR - A7s, FD+Gutshot

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Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($73.70)
UTG+1 ($64.70)
MP1 ($100.65)
MP2 ($227.65)
MP3 ($103)
CO ($141.20)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($116.80)
BB ($66.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 7
UTG raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($18) 8, 4, 5 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $13, 2 folds, Hero...

PF I had nice odds, I had position, so I decided to make the call.

What would you do on the flop? Call, raise or push directly? (And why?)


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finchybg
Joined: 16.12.2007

Personally, I like to play these agressively because we are not desperately behind against any hand. Call is not an option for me.
Though I am not sure whether a raise to 40$ or a direct push is better, so I'd appreciate some advice here, too. Pushing gives us much fold equity and we are going to take the pot many times without testing our luck on the turn and river. On the other hand, raising may lead to a call, and then a turn that goes check/check. If we eventually hit, we may get a call on the river and win more money than pushing directly on the flop followed by a fold.


cindy1985
Joined: 13.11.2007

I like to raise here (like i would if I hit trips): I don't know, why but it seems to me that the FE equity of a normal raise is often higher than a push (obviously player dependent though). Sometimes it makes me think I should push my trips and raise my big draws :)


raise 36-40 / call push


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by CyaET
raise 36-40 / call push

#2

nut flush draw + gut shot + A is probably an out as well+ fold equity.
I don't like the call pre though.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


Faye6891 Topic starter
Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Originally posted by TribunCaesar
I don't like the call pre though.

Why not? I'm getting nice odds and I got position.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by Faye6891

Originally posted by TribunCaesar
I don't like the call pre though.

Why not? I'm getting nice odds and I got position.

Well, what do you do when you hit the A or the 7? What to do if it's top pair, what when it's second pair? What to do when you hit trips A and get action? What if you hit just a flush draw against action?


Faye6891 Topic starter
Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Well, I'll have to evaluate the situation and decide the best move.
I agree it could get me into some difficult spots, but that doesn't mean it can't be played profitably.
And the only way to learn how to deal with this kind of situation and improve my game is to get into these situations. Well, that's what I think.


Timor83
Joined: 08.06.2007

I like calling preflop if your plan is only to give action postflop if you flop trips with a 7, 2 pair or a nutflushdraw.
Your hand is very strong on this flop so I definitely raise/call push.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

I think you don't hit a really good hand often enough and even if you hit it you might be beat by a better hand. Furthermore I don't like cold calling a lot anyway.
So I still vote for fold pre. But well, if you know how to handle tough spots it's ok.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


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