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NL5 zoom ATo 4b bluff

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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Preflop: I guess this is a pretty bad spot to be 4b bluffing espeially with abslutely no reads /stats on villain :f_mad:. I think this is an example of me going on tilt and just clicking buttons when my opens get consistently 3b. I think villain is going to 3b'ing a polarised range mostly. Something like: 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,ATo+,KQo (if I am using polarised in the correct context... I hope). Therefore I think that by 4b bluffing he only calls me with better (maybe I can get AJ/AQ to fold sometimes but I am not sure without further reads/stats). I think this might be better in a normal SH game where this 4b might have the added effect of building a dynamic between myself and villain and stopping him from 3b'ing so liberally.

Flop: When villain calls I would give him something like:

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       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     28.58%  27.21%   1.37% { AcTh }
SB     71.42%  70.04%   1.37% { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

I think betting the flop would turn my hand into a bluff when potentially I could bluff induce / play WAWB vs something like TT/JJ/KK that he may have decided to call OOP with intending to trap / slowplay. Therefore I thought checking behind was better.

Turn: Weird card since villain is now less likely to have AX IMO due to card removal. However when villain just bets out I would give him something like:

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Board: A♦5♥Q♣ A♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     50.72%  48.92%   1.79% { AcTh }
SB     49.28%  47.49%   1.79% { QQ+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

Basically the only worse hands that I see him leading here are KK and KQs (maybe some random bluff, but given his line I am inclined to rule out pure bluffs). I think that he may think that it is unlikely that I have AX and is now playing for value or protection or just to collect the dead money. For this reason I decided to call and if villain made it big OTR then I would assume he wasn't bluffing.

River: As above villain fires again.

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Board: A♦5♥Q♣ A♥ J♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     47.37%  47.37%   0.00% { AcTh }
SB     52.63%  52.63%   0.00% { QQ+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

Against the above range I have 47.37% equity if I think he hads KQ/KK in his range here. However I am more inclined to think his range would look something like:

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Board: A♦5♥Q♣ A♥ J♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO      0.00%   0.00%   0.00% { AcTh }
SB    100.00% 100.00%   0.00% { AA, QQ, AQs+, AQo+ }

In which case I think I should have folded the Turn anyway if I am not planning to call down OTR.

Conclusion: I think that I should just fold pre without firther reads/stats. As played.... OTF I played it fine, OTT: fold, OTR only should have called if I give him range 1. Moral of the story don't 4b bluff without reads or stats.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: $14.96 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: $5.24 (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 79)
UTG: $4.43
MP: $4.18 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 49)
Hero (CO): $10.53

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♣ T♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, SB raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.05, 2 players) A♦ 5♥ Q♣
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.05, 2 players) A♥
SB bets $1.35, Hero calls $1.35

River: ($4.75, 2 players) J♠
SB bets $2.25, fold

SB wins $4.55


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi

ATo could be a default 4b bluff withotu reads but it's probably bad at NL5 where everyone is passive.

The River is an extremely bad fold - You are at the top of your range here and you have trips which reduces the chances of him having it (1 Ace left in deck, as opposed to 2 Aces in other situations when board only has one Ace). It's a snap call and I don't think it's close at all. He could bvery well be value betting KK/KQ for all you know.


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