215$ sat to eureka prague

Since I think SB is going to raise every stronger hand on the flop, especially on this drawy board and oop, and J only might complete J9, I'm calling. I think if we are beat it's mostly 87s, and rarely by JJ, but there are a ton of draws out there, and this J could have given a lot of plus EQ to a lot of overcards +FD-s. So I'm calling.

And yes, I'm definitely betting. I see my myself ahead 90%+ of the time, so I'm going for value. It would be just really weird if someone wouldn't raise a set or 2 pair here.

Hi all,

Originally posted by AceSteph
Since I think SB is going to raise every stronger hand on the flop, especially on this drawy board and oop, and J only might complete J9, I'm calling. I think if we are beat it's mostly 87s, and rarely by JJ, but there are a ton of draws out there, and this J could have given a lot of plus EQ to a lot of overcards +FD-s. So I'm calling.

And yes, I'm definitely betting. I see my myself ahead 90%+ of the time, so I'm going for value. It would be just really weird if someone wouldn't raise a set or 2 pair here.

This, though I'm not as confident I'm ahead here.

Turn facing the check/raise: I'm going for a call here against SB. If MP raises us we have an argument for folding: he's not closing the action on the flop so he's going to trap the third person in a lot. When SB overcalls flop and c/r turn, he either has JJ/J9 or some random draw.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Originally posted by AceSteph
Since I think SB is going to raise every stronger hand on the flop, especially on this drawy board and oop, and J only might complete J9, I'm calling. I think if we are beat it's mostly 87s, and rarely by JJ, but there are a ton of draws out there, and this J could have given a lot of plus EQ to a lot of overcards +FD-s. So I'm calling.

And yes, I'm definitely betting. I see my myself ahead 90%+ of the time, so I'm going for value. It would be just really weird if someone wouldn't raise a set or 2 pair here.

This, though I'm not as confident I'm ahead here.

Turn facing the check/raise: I'm going for a call here against SB. If MP raises us we have an argument for folding: he's not closing the action on the flop so he's going to trap the third person in a lot. When SB overcalls flop and c/r turn, he either has JJ/J9 or some random draw.

we cant beat J9 right... what u think about BTN range when he just calls flop and turn

dont u think that this spot is marginal and we should make fold with those stack sizes and blind level?

This seems strange, but I would likely not bet turn for value, since I don´t want to call shove and likely I can induce some light bets from BU and after SB folds I can comfortable either shove or raise.
If BU bets and SB shoves I have easy fold

As played: you only beat some Axs hands that slowplayed flop, so I would prefer folding your spot.

best regards,

I just don't see him having much. I know J9 and JJ are two hands...

but J9 and JJ are only two hands!

I think the fact that we can safely b/f vs BU and b/c vs SB makes betting the turn mandatory when there are so many dangerous rivers. Now if there were serious ICM implications such as bubblefactors, etc. then perhaps we can make an argument. But generally I'm betting here.

Originally posted by chenny8888
I just don't see him having much. I know J9 and JJ are two hands...

but J9 and JJ are only two hands!

I think the fact that we can safely b/f vs BU and b/c vs SB makes betting the turn mandatory when there are so many dangerous rivers. Now if there were serious ICM implications such as bubblefactors, etc. then perhaps we can make an argument. But generally I'm betting here.

why we r b/f vs btn and bet calling vs sb??

and another thing as played when btn just calls again and bsb shoves isnt sb range stronger now?

Not much stronger. But I still think that almost every hand raises us on the flop oop, that beats us.

Actually I think SB-s push is a little lighter, since there is so much more dead money in the pot. So it`s quite profitable to shove a bunch of draws here.If he hits on the river its gna be hard to get paid oop vs two players. He still might have FE, and BTNs call is usually dead money. I dont really see BTN trapping twice even IP vs 2 players on such a drawy board.

I`d only fold if BTN pushes, and SB shoves as well.

Originally posted by AceSteph
Not much stronger. But I still think that almost every hand raises us on the flop oop, that beats us.

Actually I think SB-s push is a little lighter, since there is so much more dead money in the pot. So it`s quite profitable to shove a bunch of draws here.If he hits on the river its gna be hard to get paid oop vs two players. He still might have FE, and BTNs call is usually dead money. I dont really see BTN trapping twice even IP vs 2 players on such a drawy board.

I`d only fold if BTN pushes, and SB shoves as well.

I'm for folding just to a single shove from BU. On this double flushdraw, drawheavy board, I don't expect BU to trap a second time with too many hands.