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KK overpair vs donk bet + 3b

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yaxkukmian
Joined: 24.12.2007

MP 229 hands 61/31/1,6 AF/58 ftcbet/ 8 3b/ 25 3b from MP
BB 134 hands 18/11/ 1,6 AF/ 71 f from BB/ 5,3 3b (7 3b from BB)

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $27.17 (108.7 bb)
BTN: $57.43 (229.7 bb)
SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
BB: $27.80 (111.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $25 (100 bb)
MP: $13.31 (53.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 7 6 2 (3 players)
BB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5.25, MP folds, BB raises to $13, Hero raises to $24.25 and is all-in, BB calls $11.25

Turn: ($50.85) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.85) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$50.85 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 7 6 2 T 8
BB showed 4 5 and won $48.85 ($23.85 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-$25 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$0.75 net)

BB seems kind of tight but I thought he can have some FD beside sets. When he 3b r me I was almost positive he hit some set. In the end I persuaded myself to go broke since he can have some 99-JJ and some Ax FD.

What is the best line here?

Could I just call his donk and r on non club T? Problem is that he seems pretty tight and we don't have even backdoor FD or sth, just 2 outers it seems.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey yaxkukmian =)

BB is generally reasonable strong when he donks multi-way. He can still hold worse made hands and draws though, and ideally we want to protect vs seeing a turn 3way.

For this reason making a small raise on the flop and folding to further action is good. Vs BB's 3bet folding is generally good. If he flats OOP vs our flop raise we can fire any blank turn.


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yaxkukmian
Joined: 24.12.2007

So call flop. T comes super good for us - so we r and get it in or just call his second donk if chooses to do it again?

I don't like call call call line since on this limit people usually don't 3 barrel bluff. So it's whether going broke on T or folding R I think.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by yaxkukmian
So call flop. T comes super good for us - so we r and get it in or just call his second donk if chooses to do it again?

I don't like call call call line since on this limit people usually don't 3 barrel bluff. So it's whether going broke on T or folding R I think.

This is part of the reason why I'd raise flop. If he 3bets us he's nearly always very strong and we can muck Kx.

If he 2 barrels it's harder to work out how strong his range is. We'd love to protect our hand, but unfortunately raising can easily be an overplay. So it'll look more like call flop, call turn, fold river. But raising flop small is best imo.


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yaxkukmian
Joined: 24.12.2007

Originally posted by w34z3l
But raising flop small is best imo.

How much is that? About $4,75? Or is 3x enough?

Is there any difference if he donked and after I r, he decides to shove? I think this line of donk/ 3b $13 is much stronger than shove.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by yaxkukmian
How much is that? About $4,75? Or is 3x enough?

$4. We are simply trying to take the initiative, extract some thin value, and find a little info about villains range.

Originally posted by yaxkukmian
Is there any difference if he donked and after I r, he decides to shove? I think this line of donk/ 3b $13 is much stronger than shove.

Yup, this is true. I might actually just call vs a shove.


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