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PokerStars - $10+$1|75/150 NL - Holdem - 9 players

MTT PCA Satellite Rd2 10 Seats Gtd

BB: 2.37 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 31)
UTG: 18.18 BB (VPIP: 3.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
UTG+1: 15.37 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG+2: 22.37 BB (VPIP: 32.26, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
MP: 14.5 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP+1: 9.8 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 9.37 BB (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 31)
BTN: 10.17 BB (VPIP: 3.23, PFR: 3.23, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 31)
Hero (SB): 15.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♥ A♣

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero ?

Push or not? UTG+1 limps 100% of hands and CO seems to be also on a loose side, if he had some sort of decent hand he'd raise it.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey greenpiece!

a2 is a bad shove here imo! villain love to ilmp small aces and pairs… you're def. very often dominated if they call and you're not that desperate. easy ch and see a flop!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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_Anonymous_ Topic starter
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So even 25% of my stack already in the pot don't compensate for the occasions when I do get called if I push, right?


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

when you get called too often and when you give them a range thats not super lose this is not a really profitable shove!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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I didn't get used to the program you gave link to so I used SNG wizard with custom prizes structure (the winner takes it all):

If they call looser I benefit from their wide range, if they call tighter I benefit from FE. Are my calculations correct?


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Which ranges did you give them Limp + call!

I can't see that here really!

greets,
Tiltberger


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_Anonymous_

CO seems to be loose and UTG seems to be fishy, that's why I did give these very ranges :) Sorry if I annoy you, I'm just learning to play tournaments (PStars gave free tickets and instead of usual cash I decided to try). Can you please help me with determining more or less exact ranges here and I will get a touch in the wizard according to them.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey you don't annoy me. I just don't really get sngwiz. I didn't use it for a long time…
can you specify their ranges?

I just see some weird % numbers. please tell me what ranges did you give them?


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SNGWiz can't adjust ranges, so we can't change for example 96o for 65s and 54s, but from how I see it:
UTG+1 may limp with A2-AQ, K2s-KQs, Q2s-QJs, J2s-JTs, T6s-T9s, 96s-98s, 85s-87s, 74s-76s, 63s-65s, 52s-54s, 42s-43s, 32s and any offsuit with both cards above or equal seven (imo) plus all pairs from 22 to JJ. So we get the range of 54%:
JJ-22, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T6s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 63s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, AQo-A2o, K7o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o, 76o

Probably he may be looser or tighter but how far can he really go in MTT?

CO may call with smth he can't play for value vs UTG+1 but with what he is ahead of UTG+1, smth like this: 99-22, A9s-A2s, KJs-K9s, Q9s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, A9o-A7o, KJo-K9o, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o (~22%).

So now we put these assumptions into the application:
1) enter stack sizes for all the players at the table;
2) set actions before us (UTG+1 & CO called);
3) in the open% we put ranges we assume they do these limps;
4) in the call% we put ranges we assume the would get in (not forgetting about BB);
5) SNGWiz gives us suggested action based on given assumptions.

In the picture I have written number-points near each key factor in the hand to get an easy touch for it (hopefully :)).

Even with tighter ranges the program still suggests push.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

I really doubt that utg limps that many hands, especially the very low connector and suited connectors. do you have good reads for that? callingrange for the other guy is probably also lose for his stacksize, but could be ok! I Just don't like this shove without 2 much infos and reads + there are no antes which you give you time to find a better spot. But probably I'm also too tight in these spots.


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Yes, agree to you :) From pure mathematical point it may be a plus EV spot to shove but probably the edge is marginal and we can wait for a better situation to do it.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Thats my point :)

Greets,
Tiltberger


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