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[NL16 SH] CO v BU vs 3bet ranges

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Poker Stars $16.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2371597
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SB: $7.73 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2.4, Hands: 36
BB: $9.76 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 13
UTG: $16.07 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 15, 3B: 17, AF: 3.7, Hands: 74
MP: $19.59 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 28, 3B: 19, AF: 2.5, Hands: 75
Hero (CO): $16.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1315144
BTN: $16.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 4.0, Hands: 568

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is CO with A :heart: J :heart:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $1.28, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.88

Rest of hand:

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Flop: ($2.80) 8 :spade: Q :spade: 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.80) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.30, BTN calls $2.30

River: ($7.40) 3 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, BTN

Many regs like that these days, watched a video or something and start 3betting small on button This one does it around 13%-15% of the time over decent sample, otherwise standard tag.

Q1: What should be our calling range preflop?
I know how to 4bet balanced range, basically take the top blockers, widen value range. I don't think it's optimal to have a 4b fold only strategy against this sizing and frequency though. I think calling something like this should be reasonable:
99-88, AQs-ATs, KJs+, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo, KQo
Only 5% of hands

Q2: flop play + plan for the hand if he bets 30-55% pot?? and why?
Think he should give up a good amount ott so we can bluff river easily. I'd cc all TPs and overcard+good backdoors rly

My plan was to check call flop as we have good backdoors and check shove on heart and Tx that brings doublegutter. That fine or would you check call them too?
Is donking good in any part og the hand?

Q3 rest of teh hand as played
fds should bet flop really, I have a lot of Qx and still fds in my range so I decide to bet big, most likely give up on rag river but bet all spades. that fine?


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Hi LemOn36

He 3-bets small but you also open smaller at 2.5x so of course 3-bets will be smaller.

Calling depends a lot on your reads (you have 550 hands) and your plan postflop. You don't call hands like 98s and have 0 plans for them postflop.
But otherwise the range looks ok to start with.

For postflop, you can see that villain plays his hand like a weak draw that wants to avoid a raise or a showdown hand. The river pairs the board and brings yet another small card so I doubt you have enough FE to warrant another barrel there.

Put yourself in his shoes. If you play TT like this, by checking flop and calling turn, do you fold the river for roughly 27-28% pot odds? How about QJ or QK that pot control flop?


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

thanks
what would your answer be for :
flop play + plan for the hand if he bets 30-55% pot?


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Originally posted by LemOn36
thanks
what would your answer be for :
flop play + plan for the hand if he bets 30-55% pot?

Do you expect villain to bet 30-45% of the pot? I see that in 4-bet pots but I really don't see it done at Nl10,16 or 25 for that matter.

If he bets the standard bet which is around 50% we can call the flop. We can't call preflop with hands like this and fit/fold it. You can also semibluff raise the flop if you have some specific reads.

Also, donking wouldn't make much sense really on any turn. If you want to donk you might as well raise the flop.


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