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edavidko1
Joined: 25.09.2008

Hey.
I am a new user of Hem2 that I have recently purchased [Edited by VorpalF2F]. I play at Party NL100 SH tables.
I have one qustion.
After running tables the HUD displays after the first played hand. How do you solve to immediately find out who is Fish at the table, to have on him the best position?
Thank you. (sorry for my bad english)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi, edavidko1,

There is a part of HM2 called "Table Scanner" that might help find good tables.

I don't know much about it. I still evaluate the other players on my table to see what types of players are seated to my left and right.

I'll leave after a couple of orbits if I don't like the layout.

You'll notice I edited out a portion of your post.
I suggest you have a look at our forum principles and it should be obvious why.

If not, send me a PM using the community tool and I'll explain.

Best of luck,
--VS


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Glopslart
Joined: 19.05.2008

Here I am! You said you were looking for me .... ?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Glopslart
Here I am! You said you were looking for me .... ?

Wish I'd thought of that....
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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

One quick (but incomplete) way to spot the fish could be to look at the players VPIP.
If they have a VPIP higher than 30 over a decent sample size they are already looser than usual. A VPIP of over 40 should be most likely indicative of a fish.
Also, make sure to compare it to their PFR to see whether they can be considered a maniac or a calling station.

Alternatively, just look for players with "Harrier88" or variations thereof as their username. :f_wink:


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Here's a whole bunch of pro tips:

Usually a round or two are enough, moreover, in the majority of cases one should be able to tell a reg from a fish from a single hand. There are a lot of metagame tells, and they've been listed many times on forums.

Someone who:

waits for the big blind when joining the table -> is a reg or at least not a total drooler
posts OOP -> fish

shows trash down -> fish
has sizing leaks (min-3-5-bets or minraises over limpers pre, makes small - not min - bets post) -> fish
minbets post -> fish, or myself / masstabler whose hotkeys are buggy

trash-chats -> fish or tilted mediocre reg, if he uses advanced poker terms (like 'outs') or poker forum slang then obv a reg
chats quite a bit and politely -> (reg)fish

is found playing at >2 tables by permascan or clicking through the lobby -> reg, myself or ubermaniac

has been playing 4+ max for more than a round, with all his opps being identified as regs -> fish or masstabler

0/0 or 20/0 after 5 hands -> reg
VPIP>=80 after 10 hands, VPIP=100 after 5 hands -> fish

takes too little time to act -> reg or myself (due to using hotkeys)
takes too much time to act -> masstabling reg or bored FB-checking fish at a FR table

buys in for more than the minimum but less than the maximum -> fish

bets non-default %-ages of the pot that are apparently not typed in manually (e.g. 80% on iPoker if it's not $2 or smth round) -> usually reg (has given a **** about changing this setting or getting hotkeys)

auto tops up whenever possible -> reg (it's usually known after the first hand because he folds the BB in 80%+ of cases)
has no top-up -> fish or loosish passive reg

has an iPoker SN ending by digits and starting with 'TTR', 'WWR', 'BMR', 'alspc', etc except 'bf' -> fish (casino / sportsbook gambler)
has an iPoker SN starting with 'bf' -> Betfair fish or reg that had played on Ongame before (so it's not a tell)
has an aggressive SN -> reg
has an SN referring to poker terms (often those known only by regs) -> reg
has his / her real name or an animal as the SN, sometimes with a birth year -> usually fish


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

I can add a couple:

has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Harrier88
I can add a couple:

has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:
Right, but the reference to Isildur has to be humorous. Otherwise, someone copying the SN of a known shark (especially a not-so-known online shark) is a reg. I have an Isildur in my iPoker SnGs, and he's at least a very high volume player without apparent weaknesses, even if not a good reg. The same applies to the value clown of my iPoker PLO games.


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Originally posted by Harrier88
I can add a couple:

has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:

It's true. I have a picture of my cat and I'm a fish :P


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Lazza61
It's true. I have a picture of my cat and I'm a fish :P

Makes sense.
One player had a picture of a fish, but it turned out he was a cat. :coolface:

So....
Armed with all this knowledge, I should do everything possible to make myself look like a fish.

Or, should I do everything in my power to NOT look like a fish.

decisions, decisions.

Oh, and my contribution:
Anyone from Canada --> defo fish.

Cheers,
--VS


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Be careful, someone shown as a Canadian might turn out a poker refugee from the US! :f_eek: (Fishes don't earn enough money to emigrate, nor have the urge to do so, do they?)


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edavidko1
Joined: 25.09.2008

Thank you guys for usefull helps ;)
I will start working on it :)


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