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JohnyC1337
Joined: 27.05.2011

Villain 22/18, BBvsBTN 3bet 13%, cbet oop 69/50/20, c/f turn 61%, c/r turn 33%, wtsd 28, w$sd 51%, wwsf 48%

No idea what should I do OTR... His play seems very good to me because he can just c/shove turn with valuehands vs my draw hands and tha same line OTR... I bet river with missed draws which I didnt stab OTT and also for value with TT+.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $175.35 (175.4 bb)
SB: $240.42 (240.4 bb)
BB: $108.36 (108.4 bb)
UTG: $106.28 (106.3 bb)
MP: $101.80 (101.8 bb)
CO: $178.63 (178.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB raises to $8.50, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($17.50) Q 8 3 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($37.50) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($37.50) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises to $89.86 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$73.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 8 3 7 4
Hero mucked J Q and lost (-$36.50 net)
BB mucked and won $70.70 ($34.20 net)


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mesisification
Joined: 05.08.2011

Why don't you bet on the turn?


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JohnyC1337
Joined: 27.05.2011

Because I dont have 2 streets of value...


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mesisification
Joined: 05.08.2011

Why's that? Why would villain check better hands on the turn? Villain could play 99-JJ like this and call a bet OTT.


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JohnyC1337
Joined: 27.05.2011

because he can c/shove AQ+ OTT and make his life easier insted of betting and seeing some bad river cards... His c/r Turn is 33% so bigger number.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Turn is a clear betcall imo. Are u only checking back value hands and not air hands going for a delayed float?

U have good equity to betcall turn and i think u are missing a lot of value. U could seriously consider betting river as well cos kq and aq and OPs probably bet bet bet or bet F checkraise T so if he cc T u are likely to be ahead. U can also improve on river and value bet your outs

As played where are u in your range?
If u always bet kq on turn? U are at top of your range and u need to call this.

With all that said im mostly dealing with 15-20% ranges here and i defend much wider as well. 13% isnt that wide but surely u have QTs and KQo. Since ranges are tigher i agree that u dont have 3streets most of the time.

Whats in your river betting range? Kq, QJs and QTs? If u only have these hands then u should probably betcall KQ and betfold the rest


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JohnyC1337
Joined: 27.05.2011

I am definitely checking back some draws which are not good to b/c but also not so weak to b/f.


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