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TT 3B+call odds?

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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013

BU: 825h 23/12 3B: 4,0
UTG: 189h 26/16 3B: 9,4

Have i there good odds to setmining? With rule call20 i should fold. I will need 18$ in my stack to would call.

i need get 72BB when hit OTF set with fit/fold game to EV0. If I counted well. (ofc i can win sometimes in showdown with best hand - that no count)

If you call there TT, call you even 22?

OTF: my bet its propably BS. I dont know now, why i donked this.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em $0.02 Ante - 8 players -

CO: $11.98
BTN: $28.04
SB: $17.74
BB: $20.75
UTG: $61.03
UTG+1: $34.59
Hero (MP1): $10.59
MP2: $16.89

Pre Flop: ($0.31) Hero is MP1 with T :spade: T :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds, BTN raises to $1.20, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.91) 6 :spade: 2 :diamond: 8 :diamond: (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.30, BTN raises to $5.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds


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cutegoldfish
Joined: 19.11.2009

Hi,

There may not be odds for set mining but here we can apply a call 10 rule instead because opponent has shown strength and more likely to commit to the pot when compared to a normal single raise pot.

The purpose of calling TT is not to win money, but to lose less than what you put in. We need to call around 50% of the hands we continue with in order to be not exploitable and TT happens to be the top 50%. Take up your equilator and construct your calling range there and then take out the bottom 50% and you have a call with something like 88+. So 22 is a clear fold.

Flop - the general plan when calling is to check to the aggressor and let him bet and we call. With TT the general plan is to call up to 2 streets. Remember we are not here to make money with TT, the goal of the call is to lose less than the 30 cents you initially committed. So over the long run if you lose 20 cents your call has been successful.

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Cutegoldfish


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HHHuBi
Joined: 12.12.2013

Hi thanks for reply, and i need 50% vs all 3 player? or only vs squuezer?

because if i put to squuzer in my opinion not much real range (because he squueze to UTG raises, so i think his range will be narrow)

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    42.03%  40.83%   1.19% { JJ+, AKs, KQs, QJs, JTs, AKo }
MP3    30.71%  29.37%   1.34% { 77+, AJs+, AQo+ }
CO     27.26%  26.94%   0.32% { TT }

than i get only 27% eq

and only vs squuezer if i put him fancy range then i still do not get 50%

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    51.77%  51.50%   0.27% { JJ+, ATs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+ }
CO     48.23%  47.96%   0.27% { TT }

Flop - the general plan when calling is to check to the aggressor and let him bet and we call. With TT the general plan is to call up to 2 streets. Remember we are not here to make money with TT, the goal of the call is to lose less than the 30 cents you initially committed. So over the long run if you lose 20 cents your call has been successful.

i dont understand, if my goal is lose less than the 30cents. Dont i less more wheh i call this 3bet? Or if i will cal this bad flop two streets or only maybe one (because i think he will cbet there only strong hand like JJ+) then imo i less much more then clear fit/fold game or fold preflop.


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