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JJ - worst fold ever?

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Craigsy633
Joined: 17.04.2013

I have been pained by this hand!

Happy with the 3-bet, continuation bet was reasonable. When he called I put him on a draw, when he checked I figured he was trapping to didn't bet the turn to reduce the size of the pot.

The 3/4 size pot bet on the river convinced me that he wanted to be called and I happily folded. Since then looked at the hand evaluation chart and know if was an easy call. Your advise is appreciated, was it so bad based on the pot odds?
PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 144 BB (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 20.10, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 211)
BB: 64.5 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: 156.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 74)
CO: 106 BB (VPIP: 43.40, PFR: 27.36, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 109)
Hero (BTN): 180.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♠ J♦

fold, CO raises to 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 2♠ 8♣ 9♠
CO checks, Hero bets 12 BB, CO calls 12 BB

Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (44.5 BB, 2 players) T♥

Note: River bluff - with such a wide range and no over cards I was a huge favorite

CO bets 25 BB, fold

CO wins 43 BB


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Craigsy633,

Preflop 3b is ok, but CO's open raise size worries me. My standard here would be to flat call preflop vs a 4.5x open.

Flop is fine.

I would generally just put out a smallish turn bet for thin value here. It's very easy to fold vs a x/r here. Also we can protect our equity vs one-spade hands and also hopefully get called by worse. However if we just check back it's very difficult to work out whether villain is betting because he has a flush or whether he's just betting because we checked back turn. So small turn bet usually works out stronger all round.


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BattleHunter
Joined: 12.11.2009

Why did you make such an abnormally small 3bet? It is barely half a bb above 2x-ing his open raise. On the other hand he is opening really big, but still I would much rather see you either 3bet quite a bunch bigger at least 12bb, probably leaning towards 14, as I perceive villain as an aggrofish.

Besides that flop cbet is good, turn you should consider betting again - you are still ahead of villain's range at this point, but he can also have some 1 spade draws and I wouldn't count out overcards either, that still have 6 + outs against you.


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