nuts getting value deep

MrTrocks

Joined: 25.03.2006

01.07.2014, 18:31 0

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 345.48 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 43)
BB: 342.56 BB(VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (UTG): 463.2 BB
MP: 110.6 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 99)
CO: 112.02 BB (VPIP: 34.57, PFR: 19.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 82)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ A♥ 7♠ Q♥

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, BB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB, fold

Flop: (31.5 BB, 2 players) K♥ J♦ A♣
BB bets 22.56 BB, Hero calls 22.56 BB

Turn: (76.62 BB, 2 players) 9♣
BB checks, Hero bets 65 BB, BB calls 65 BB

River: (206.62 BB, 2 players) 8♦
BB checks, Hero bets ? BB, BB calls ?

2questions:

flop would u raise here? i decide not for 2 reasons:

we are deep and i want to see a unpaired turn. Also i don´t want that he fold some hands he could barrel ott. on the other hand his range should be very strong when he squeeze deep oop. what i like in retro is a minraise to stack him otr

-turn: after he check/call i was sure he has AA or KK so i decide to bet big

-River: i think his callingrange is elastic. whats ure sizing here?
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Suhepxm

Joined: 20.10.2008

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02.07.2014, 13:02 0

there are 2 ways to approach river betsizing imho:

1. You can say his range is capped and i want to apply maximum pressure, also with my bluffs -> bet Big

2. On the other side i dont think you have that many floats/bluffs in that spot, so choosing a smaller betsize is more appealing.

Im really not sure which betsize is best in this spot, but i think with my bluffs i would want to bet at least 2/3 pot, so id do the same with my valuehands.
But then again its plo 50 and you dont need to balance your bluff and value betsizes that much, especially in a rare spot.

All in all id go with a 40-50% potsize bet, but i have to admit this is kind of arbitrary.

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Skodljivec

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03.07.2014, 16:05 0

Originally posted by Suhepxm
there are 2 ways to approach river betsizing imho:

1. You can say his range is capped and i want to apply maximum pressure, also with my bluffs -> bet Big

2. On the other side i dont think you have that many floats/bluffs in that spot, so choosing a smaller betsize is more appealing.

Im really not sure which betsize is best in this spot, but i think with my bluffs i would want to bet at least 2/3 pot, so id do the same with my valuehands.
But then again its plo 50 and you dont need to balance your bluff and value betsizes that much, especially in a rare spot.

All in all id go with a 40-50% potsize bet, but i have to admit this is kind of arbitrary.

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i have to agree with everything. I don't think we have a bluff here ever otr, and if we do bet with something like AA or KK we would probably bet around 1/2 pot, so i like that sizing to get a call. It's really hard to balance here with bluffs like mentioned, cause they are very rare indeed with the line we took. Still maybe 2/3 pot works because there are a few new straights there.

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MrTrocks Topic starter

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04.07.2014, 12:59 0

thanks for the answers. i´d bet something around half pot he tanked and called with obv AA

@Skod: what about my flop question? minraise vs c/c

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Skodljivec

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04.07.2014, 17:54 0

Hi,

yeah i would definetly just call here. You want some nuts in your calling range for sure. You are usually way ahead here. You can also raise ofc.

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