Hand of the end

As for the small blind on the river:

I am not folding a straight. You don't do that in FL Hold'em. You don't fold sets or two pairs either. This package together has +EV.

Then, can you ever fold pairs? These are the bluff catchers here.

You get 8.5:1, so calling with some sort of pair, preferably with a to block a flush, then you will nip off most of his reasonable turn bluffing range in the long run. If he is bluffing on the turn on this board with A high, 22, 33, ..., or 97, well, then hats off to him. That will be a problem for him later.

Can you fold a T or a J? Probably not. They are payoff hands.

But, then, don't with call too many of the 88.

Thus, the best hand I'd almost surely fold in the SB is an 88.

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Originally posted by YohanN7
As for the small blind on the river:

I am not folding a straight. You don't do that in FL Hold'em. You don't fold sets or two pairs either. This package together has +EV.

Then, can you ever fold pairs? These are the bluff catchers here.

Thats what you call absolute hand strength rating.

Thus, the best hand I'd almost surely fold in the SB is an 88.

So you bet/call the turn with 88 ?

I wrote what I wrote, then went to bed. A couple of things struck me.

First off, I forgot to write that I might not play the hand the SB did with 2000000% of my range. I was too tired to attempt anything to your liking (requires a PhD thesis), thought it obvious, but decided to leave my overheated bed to point that out.

Second off, about jacks and tens in the SB calling range: There aren't many that are just one pair now that can be folded. (AJ, AT now are straights etc.)

Third off (in reaction to your reply), absolute hand strengths are the most important and the most simple way to judge the value of a hand. All else are secondary or tertiary considerations. Don't ignore hand strength in your considerations when you have a split second decision. If you do, you will level yourself into idiotic plays. You might turn out to be a genius this hand. Most normal hands you won't. Actual hand strength is what decides who wins the pot in a showdown, not ranges.

If you have leveled yourself into folding a king or a queen (few in your range!) here (or two pairs), then you screw up. If you level yourself into calling with all pairs, then you screw up even more. My answer probably isn't too off, it is based on intuition alone, so you should rightly scrutinize it, but I'm not going through the trouble of putting all into Equilab and Combonator.

SB:

-preflop 3bet default:
44+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J9s+,T8s+,98s,87s,A5o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo

-flop cbet:
100%

-turn cbet:
TT+, 55, AJs+, K6s+, QJs, Q9s-Q8s, J9s+, 98s, 87s, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AJo+, K9o+, QJo, JTo

-turn cbet/call:
44+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J9s+,T8s+,98s,87s,A5o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo

-river c/call:
QQ, KQs, K9s, J9s, 98s, KQo, K9o

This is default vs unknown oponent. Vs known ppl I will also have turn c/r with ini range since this is a pretty nice spot for it thefore my range may be different in such cases.

BU:

-OR:
22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, A2o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J9o+, T9o, 98o, 87o

-call:
100%

-flop call:
22+, A9s+, A5s, K2s+, Q9s+, J7s+, T9s, 98s, Ad8d, As8s, Qd8d, Td8d, Ad7d, As7s, Qd7d, Td7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, Ad6d, As6s, Qd6d, 7d6d, Ad4d, As4s, Ad3d, As3s, Ad2d, As2s, A9o+, A5o, K7o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o

-turn raise:
KK+, JJ-TT, 55, AQs+, KTs+, K5s, Q9s, JTs, Qd8d, 9d8d, Qd7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, Qd6d, 7d6d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AQo+, KTo+, Q9o, JTo

-river bet:
KK+, JJ-TT, 55, AQs, KQs, Q9s, Qd8d, 9d8d, Qd7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, Qd6d, 7d6d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AQo, KQo, Q9o

river b/c:
KK+, Q9s, Q9o
..all better are 3bet range

That would be the times when I go for call/flop raise turn line. Vs known players or even unknown I also have a fastplaying gamplan(raising flop...) so then ranges are different

Best hand Im calling turn in BU is K9.

This is without any special calculation,just my instinctive opinion,like I would prolly do when playing.

@Dawnfall26 :

There is something wrong with the turn c-bet/call range youve given, because it seems to be wider than your actual turn c-bet* range (for ex TT+ vs 44+, AJo+ vs A5o+ etc.. )