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PLO100 - weird spot vs. turn raise

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tgtoo
Joined: 03.10.2010

BTN: 250.99 BB
Hero (SB): 140.43 BB
BB: 186.72 BB
UTG: 27.13 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 140.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♥ 8♣ 6♣ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) J♦ T♣ 2♦
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 3♣
Hero bets 14 BB, BB raises to 59.19 BB, Hero calls 45.19 BB

River: (136.38 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero bets 72.24 BB and is all-in

Villain is a reg, on the aggressive side. 3bet 11% total so far, 1/2 times BvB before this hand. Cbets a ton in SRP (79%), 42% (5/12) so far in 3b pots. He also seems to raise both flops and turns very aggressively. Has given turn bets decent respect though so far.

Flop I was check/folding with bare bottom OESD, but villain gives us a pretty nice turn card for free. Betting can't be too bad with no SDV, plenty of outs and nice barrel opportunities OTR. Check/raising could make sense as well though, and I'm not sure which would be better. Strong opinions on this one?

Getting raised kind of surprised me here as I thought he'd bet most of his really strong hands OTF for value/to protect on such a dynamic texture. He could have some mediocre Jxxx/Txxx that ran into a two pair, or a similar hand that made the flush draw and decided to go for FEQ/doesn't want to call. I have no idea if people play (and also if they should play) something like bare-ish AA this way to protect/charge draws. In any case I don't expect to have much fold eq after he pots it, and the hand isn't strong enough to go with against reasonable ranges. Can I peel a river though?

I was planning on donkbluffing diamonds as I doubt he has a ton of those (not many weaker diamonds raise turn, and Add/Kdd hands strong enough to raise turn prob bet flop somewhat often?) while I rep them credibly. Could also donk a 4 and maybe a 7 for value as most of the stuff still missed on those cards so he could bluffcatch with hands that check back. A queen and especially clubs would be a bit iffy and probably have to start with a check. Looking back, I might be dominated somewhat often especially on clubs, which are a significant part of my outs. Thoughts?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

his line indeed looks like a picked up club draw here; it's possible he also had a low diamond draw that now picked up the double FD, and he has a low pair with it and is now willing to stackoff.

Due to this fact, i would fold to the raise (but bet in the first place, it should be the best play). The problem is that if he is a reg he will have a polarized cbet range, so it's really hard for you to know which hands are good too bluff; even worse, the clubs and the Q could be and most likely are dirty outs, leaving you with only 6 clean outs often.

So while villain 95% of the time doesn't have the diamond nfd, it's possible he won't fold it regardless; however if you think he is capable of folding a low flush, bluffing diamonds is def a good enough reason to call the raise in the first place.

Problem is what happens when clubs hit. You probably have the paradox here of having to fold when you hit your outs, but try to win when you miss . And of course on blanks we have to c/f, so long story short, i would fold turn :)

Regards,

Skod


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