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[Closed] (3/6) 88 from SB vs MP3 raise

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Full Tilt (Cash Game): $3/$6 FL , 5 players
Mon Nov 17 18:58:18 CET 2008
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Sukout199 ($67.50)
Summer Morn ($103)
jacksindahole ($195.50)
ello mallo 000 ($273.50)
bcsmith69 ($61)

jacksindahole is the button.

Precards:
ello mallo 000 posts the small blind $1.50, bcsmith69 posts the big blind $3.

Preflop: ello mallo 000 is dealt 8♥ 8♠ (5 active)
Sukout199 raises to $6, 2 folds, ello mallo 000 raises to $9, bcsmith69 folds, Sukout199 calls $3.

Flop: J♦ 9♥ 4♦ ($21, 2 active)
ello mallo 000 bets $3, Sukout199 raises to $6, ello mallo 000 calls $3.

Turn: J♦ 9♥ 4♦ 9♠ ($33, 2 active)
ello mallo 000 checks, Sukout199 bets $6, ello mallo 000 calls $6.

River: J♦ 9♥ 4♦ 9♠ K♠ ($45, 2 active)
ello mallo 000 checks, Sukout199 checks.

Final Pot: $43, $2 raked
ello mallo 000, net: -$21, Lost at showdown, has [8h 8s] (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)
Sukout199, net: $22, Won at showdown, has [Js Qs] (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
bcsmith69, net: -$3, Folded Preflop

Sukout199
#hands: 1,147
VP$P: 35%
PFR: 15%
ATS: 33%
WTSD: 35$
PostFlop AF: 2.40


7 replies
SeaJaws
Joined: 04.06.2007

I can't just fold against a flopraise and the turn is actually good for you because it reduces the chance that he has a 9, so NH I think.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Ye nice hand. What would you do if he bet the river?


Originally posted by Yoghi
Ye nice hand. What would you do if he bet the river?

I think is an easy fold. This player from the stats looks "thinking" ( I hope you understand me ) ... so he knows I call raise on the flop and the turn.

I dont think he bets on the river with just a pair ( For example AJ he has to check-behind often on the river ) ... he sees that OESD completes on the river ;)

If he bets again on the river: I think he has 9, or straight or +++
Sometimes could bluffin me with a missed flush, but I think it is really difficult for him


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Hmm, I actually asked you because I didn't know it

I don't think it's an easy fold, since his range is gonna be either strong hands or bluffs (:D busted draw, perhaps A high on this board). I think a fold is OK though, because I don't believe this guy can valuebet marginal hands and his range doesn't have too many weak hands.


OK

I say "easy fold" without reads ;)


A riverfold is indeed not that easy. As Yoghi mentioned there are still some busted draws in his range. The K is a good scarecard as well so he might see a good chance to get you off a better hand.
Well as he raised from MP2 his range isn't that weak so I think as well that a fold would be ok.

Could we use the flopraise value to see if his flopraise is strong o weak? f he doesn't raise the turn very often then there are more made hands in his flopraise. The other way around means that his flopraise is more often a draw (as the madehandcount goes down).
His turncard and his bet however changes this again as if he raised with a draw he might take a freecard to the paired card. :/