Ideal stats for 5-Card Draw

Interesting! Since I don't use a HUD for 5cd, what are the title headers between saw_f and Net? Folding to the 3-bet should be easy for those players that have played PL/NL 5cd ( and maybe some of them fold to the 3-bet too often ); after all, this is not a flop game ( where most of the time pot equities are not that dismal ) in comparison to the common situation in 5cd when you have a very weak two pairs and are up against better two pairs.

The database is used for all variants, so saw_f == saw flop, which to 5-Card Draw would be saw draw.
net is $won.
BB/100 is big bets, not big blinds. The original query was in big blinds, which confused me a bit so I changed it.

VS

Originally posted by bigpooch
Folding to the 3-bet should be easy for those players that have played PL/NL 5cd ( and maybe some of them fold to the 3-bet too often ); after all, this is not a flop game ( where most of the time pot equities are not that dismal ) in comparison to the common situation in 5cd when you have a very weak two pairs and are up against better two pairs.

I Fold to 3Bet pre too rarely, I fear.
A lot depends on who is doing the 3Betting.

Example, if I've opened AAxxx UTG, and get 3Bet from an aggressive BTN or from the blinds I will almost always call.
Even assuming no one else is in, the pot is 3.75 Big Bets, and you need to put in 1 to call.
So you're getting 3.75:1 and the odds of getting Aces up or better are 2.48:1 -- or am I missing something?

If I think I need trips or better, then I look for pot odds of 6:1 -- It's a bit short, but if you hit, you can often get a further BB off him post draw.

He may also be raising a draw I've already beaten.
This is where I get into trouble.

Call the CBet or not?

Cheers,
VS

Hi VorpalF2F,
here are some thoughts on the game.

a) Probability 2-Pair / 5,26 : 1....... 15,985 %
a) Probability 3-of a kind / 7,75 : 1...... 11,433 %
b) Probability full house / 97,33 : 1...... 1,017 %
c) Probability 4-of a kind / 7,75 : 1....... 0,246 %

The probability of succending is 28,681 % (15,9865+11,433+1,017+0,246)__ 2,49 : 1

Example : Stakes 0,10/0,20 $
BigBlind = 0,20 = BB
SmallBlind = 0,10 = SB

1) PreDraw (with aggressive BTN)
Deadmoney from:
__BigBlind = 1 SB (0,10 $)
__SmallBlind = 0,5 SB (0,05 $)
Hero raise = 2 SB (0,20 $)
BTN 3-bet = 3 SB (0,30 $)
Pot = 1+0,5+2+3= 6,5 SB (=3,75 BB)
Hero call 3-bet PreDraw ...1SB __6,5 : 1

2) PreDraw (with aggressive SmallBlind)
Hero call 3-bet PreDraw ...1SB___6 : 1

3) PreDraw (with aggressive BigBlind)
Hero call 3-bet PreDraw ...1SB___5,5 : 1

My Questions:

a) Is your HUD running ?
b) How can i create these tables ?

To the statistic i write to another date something.

You have the Stat CAPre = Call Preflop Raise ?

Originally posted by Rettungs1zeichen
a) Is your HUD running ?
b) How can i create these tables ?

You have the Stat CAPre = Call Preflop Raise ?

a)I use fpdb for 5-Card Draw and games other then NLHE. My database is MySQL. fpdb supports sqlite, MySQL and postgresql . I chose MySQL because if the current version of fpdb, session stats are only kept when using that database. Also, it has good analysis tools -- and its free. (I like free)

b)I downloaded the source code for fpdb with the idea to modify it to produce additional stats[1] . It is a bit beyond me. I have take a course in Python since, and may give it another go. The queries that produce the tables are modified from the ones in the source that build the HUD cache. I run the queries in Excel, and paste them here. The actual query is in my blog somewhere.

I do have the stat "CallRaisePreFlop" in my HUD, I don't know why it is not in the table above -- it would be a good one to include.

All the best in 2015,
VS

[1] Stats I would like but aren't in fpdb:
 Drawing frequency -- how often a player draws 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 cards in what positions. You can gets these stats with a query, but with over 250K hands in my database, the query is taking 12 seconds or so even with the database on a solid-state drive -- and that is only to get pat frequency by position. To do this propery, it will be necessary to build a proper positional cache table.
 raise and limp first in by position. RFI is useful for all positions, but I really would like to know how often SB open limps.
 Any other suggestions?

I'd like to know how often the SB has open limped and folded; and when the SB has open limped, the distribution of hands ( for the whole database ) for each specific number of cards drawn.