KJo vs raise river

hi,

The board hits villian range very good, so I will check many value combos here. Imo KJ is at best very thin 3barrel here. sometimes I play cbet flop, and cc down turn.

I don't really see how KJo can ever triple for value unimproved without some serious dynamic.

Flop play is fine

Turn is fine.

River is ok, I'd bet/call. I'm not sure why you think he is never bluffing on the river. I figured part of the idea behind your small bets was to induce making bet/call ok. Anyway, depends partly on his check-back range on turn. River is a blank, so if he never slowplays anything on the turn we might get folds from his entire range with a river 3bet which is exploitatively way better than bet/call.

River is ok, I'd bet/call. I'm not sure why you think he is never bluffing on the river. I figured part of the idea behind your small bets was to induce making bet/call ok. Anyway, depends partly on his check-back range on turn. River is a blank, so if he never slowplays anything on the turn we might get folds from his entire range with a river 3bet which is exploitatively way better than bet/call.

I said it is never bluff from reg, because I simply never see a bluff, especially with that size, it is mostly weaker Qx maybe AJ. If he raises much bigger, then it is strong hand mostly, still never saw bluff (or almost never). So my small bet size is not to induce raise, but to induce very light calls. Vs fish, I would snap call, and it small bet would be for inducing.

I suppose a 3bet only strategy from the SB (22%) and a reasonable defending range from the BTN. In this scenario SB`s range has an equity advantage vs BTN range.

I have only 3bet range from SB, only if BB is agressive reg who will cold call or sqeeze so often that my cold calls are not profitable anymore, but it becomes more profitable to 3bet just.
If there is a fish in bb, I would be more inclined to cold call more hands.

If BU defends reasonable range preflop to river, then he will not have 9x in range, maybe not even JTs, JQs, so KJ can be only 3barrel for value if villian defends very wide.

Originally posted by Pumper247
Hi,

sorry for late reply.

If BU defends reasonable range preflop to river, then he will not have 9x in range, maybe not even JTs, JQs, so KJ can be only 3barrel for value if villian defends very wide.

Im not sure if I understand it right.
Lets say SB double barrels on J♥:9♠:2♣:4♦: . If BTN folds here 9x hes overfolding and I think BTN needs to calldown some 9x on a 6♥: River to not overfold.
So I see a Flop cbet for SB with KJ.

I meant he will not have 9x and weak Jx in river defend range. So hands that call 3 streets are imo JQ+.
Turn call additionaly KQ, and other draws and 9x, TT, weak Jx, and those imo fold on river. I didnt do analyses for exactly this hand, but I think I have already a good feeling for it, because most boards with Jxx (and some lower connected card) will have similar ranges. Anyway, imo, it can be in best case that KJ is very thin value on river, which means that it can probably be higher EV to play a hand as check on some street. Thats why I cbet flop and turn on very drawy board and cc river blank vs villian who is not super agro, and vs villian that will call flop often and bet turn, I would cbet flop and cc down turn, and vs villians that bet flop i would cc down flop.

And as a exploitative approach, this board maybe doesnt give to villian a lot of strong hands, but he has many gutshots, that will barrel likely at least flop and turn (but will fold vs turn barrel, or will raise you on flop). Also when you check on board which is connected or favors villians range, your perceived range is considered as give up mostly once you check flop, which is why usually regs will bet wide on flop and thats why vs most regs it is more profitable to check flop than to 3 barrel.