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Two pairs and OE Straight flush draw vs fish - Deep on Turn

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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008
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Hi guys,

BB is an 50/10 and EP was another 50/12 in 60 hands, previously I doubled up against EP when he called me on river with botton pair (I had nuts). What you guys think about how I played the hand, specially on flop and turn mainly, considering that EP and I are both deepstack

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

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$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$3.12:///////;MP2$8.76:///////;MP3$5.65:///////;CO$7.72:///////;BU (Hero)$12.97:///////;SB$5.40:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with T:d, 8:d.
MP2 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.62) 9:d, T:h, J:d (3 players)
BB bets $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, BB calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.97) 8:h (3 players)
BB bets $2.47, MP2 calls $2.47, Hero ???

Spoiler

Hero calls $2.47.

River: ($9.38) Q:d (2 players)
MP2 bets $5.64, Hero calls $5.64.

Final Pot: $20.66.
Results follow:

Hero shows a straight flush, queen high(T:d 8:d).
BB shows a straight, queen high(Q:s J:h).
MP2 shows a straight, queen high(Q:c T:c).

Hero wins with a straight flush, queen high(T:d 8:d).


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015
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Hi Mandator
I love this scenario.
I am here to learn
(when is it appropriate to fold a double ended strait flush draw)
Just so you know how bad I play, I probably limp call preflop.
If I decide to protect against AQ I would go big on the flop.
I will try to calculate equity on hands that call.
Regards GoOnCal1


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
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I would play it passively. Our SD is from the weaker side and I would not be happy to see a Q. So we are left with the FD outs.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011
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Call flop, call turn and ship river. Depends of course how large the bets are.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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With two diamonds on the flop and multiway there is a high chance of someone calling for a flush.

I call down and ship the river, even an overbet wont matter. Sometimes everybody will fold and you'll wish you hadn't done it but that isn't the way to look at it, they will call with nearly any flush, often a Kx straight or even 7x especially 7xdd. Oh and flushes are like full houses at micros, nobody folds them!

nh indeed! :appl:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
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Push river is the right play.


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010
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Turn call is marginal at best, we are calling the overbet trying to draw FH or flush(may get overflushed) and should c/f every river if we miss.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
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Just calling the flop/turn looks right to me. Of course, if we know that will hit a straight flush on the river, we can do whatever we want. ;)


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008
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Originally posted by excitedpoker
Turn call is marginal at best, we are calling the overbet trying to draw FH or flush(may get overflushed) and should c/f every river if we miss.

That could be true, but the implied odds that we have if we hit the river are enormous, of course if we don't hit the river is an easy fold, but we have to pay like 50bb on turn for a potential 400 bb pot as it happened. I was hesitant between on flop between calling or raising the donk bet, and a bit confused on turn between calling or shoving on turn , but fold was not an option due to the implied odds.

Thanks everyone for sharing your opinions. :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
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Shove turn is the worst play.


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