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AK vs two abc

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PKR, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $18.39 (183.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.74 (107.4 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
BTN: $12.99 (129.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.95, SB calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.85, MP calls $0.65

Flop: ($3.80) 6 K 6 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $2.60, SB folds, Hero calls $2.60, MP folds

Turn: ($9) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero calls $7.19 and is all-in

River: ($23.38) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$23.38 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 6 K 6 9 6
Hero showed A K and lost (-$10.74 net)
BTN showed A A and won $21.38 ($10.64 net)

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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved your hand to the hand discussion forum, because it’s fits better there.

Pre-flop is close to call OOP against a 3bet without closing the action here. Normal I would 4bet or fold as cash game fish in a spot like this.

On the flop I would consider to fold already, because I expect BTN will only continue with betting with AK and KK+ in a multi way pot. It has not to much sense I think for him to bet like 99-QQ in to 3 players.

As played the turn is a clear fold for sure.

Best regards,
SDK1987


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

with so much dead money in the pot preflop it`s not a mistake to 4bet call it off, especially considering that the BTN is 3betting lighter IP and we`ve got the best blockers. If you decide to call preflop you have to call this flop although you won`t be good often enough here, the turn is definately a fold, there isn`t a single hand he`s 3betting preflop and stacking this dry flop that you beat.


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In Equilab, if his turn barell range is AA, AK and AQss, u have 39% so its a call I think if the general tendency in these limits is to bet FDs OTT ?
That said im not sure how to account for the many split pots given massive AK in his range, but it makes sense to call if AA is only small part of his range cause pot is big already, u need less than 33% to call , even if u chop a lot ( It seems that it's a call even vs AK,AA range , u have 35%)

I think his cbet is horrible btw , especially that size


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think that with this hand we should 4bet in this situation and get it in, if have to. As played, I would bet the flop. We most likelly have the best hand there and we don't want to give free cards in multi-way pots.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

4 bet here. Postflop - nothing you can do there.


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I'd play it the same way you did. Turn is a snap call if you ask me given the expected range of villain and pot-odds. But that said, it obviously remains a bluff-catcher with a high probability of splitting so don't go crying if you lose, you're playing for the dead money already in the pot, not what's left in your stack and just because you're expected to lose a majority of the time, doesn't make the call -EV.


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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

Definitely 4betting preflop and getting it in there. As played, I also call flop but I fold turn to his shove as I can't think of a hand that I beat that would 3bet pf here. KQs, maaaaybe.


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

There was a raise , a reraise and a cold call and then you are to act. This means snap fold everything but AA and maybe KK. Even if we are ahead, we want to avoid such spots because when we invest money we want for us to be in spots we are likely ahead (+ev spots)
However if SB is a fish that cold calls 3bets wide, then we have an easy shove preflop with all that dead money in and since SB is a fish and B can be wide , we are likely ahead. So no room to 4bet 3x, just snap shove and we get a fold from TT,JJ ,maybe QQ.

As played
Pot odds= 7.19/(7.19+9+7.19)=30%
This means we need at least 30% equity

Board: 6♠K♠6♦ 9♥ 6♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     70.00%  40.00%  30.00% { KK+, AKs, AKo }
SB     30.00%   0.00%  30.00% { AhKh }

DONT REALLY KNOW IF WE NEED AT LEAST 30% EQUITY TO WIN? OR 60% EQUITY TO DRAW?
Can anyone help?


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

@bonecore the equity stuff is wrong because our decision is on the turn not on the river and you`ve put the whole board. Here is how it looks:
Board: 6s 6d Ks 9h
Hand 0: 31.364% 01.36% 30.00% 6 132.00 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 68.636% 38.64% 30.00% 170 132.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
It`s a brekeven call i would not make.


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