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AJs straight bet-sizing?

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legenyPS
Joined: 10.03.2011

Hi Guys,

I often have the problem that I have a very good hand or even the nut on one of the streets and I am unsure on the bet sizing. Of course I want to take out the most of it, and I do not want villain to fold, but I also don't want to give free card for him.

Do you have any advise on the hand below?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 148 BB
SB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 180 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 305 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): 134 BB
CO: 141 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ J♠

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 4♣ K♥ Q♣
BB checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB, BB calls 5.5 BB

standard raise on the flop

Turn: (26 BB, 3 players) T♦
BB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, CO calls 18 BB, BB calls 18 BB

I was quite unsure - I have a straight and took 2/3 of the pot after a long thinking

River: (80 BB, 3 players) 9♥
BB checks, Hero bets 60 BB, CO raises to 114.5 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 47.5 BB and is all-in

I bet big, again 2/3, because the turn raise was called, and I was quite happy to go all-in here after all. I am not sure if I the shove or lower sizing would be OK?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

What is standard about the flop bet?
You must bet turn bigger.
On river just push. If someone is going to call you there it doesn't matter the size but with a push you will get the biggest profit in the long run.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I see nothing wrong with the turn and river sizing. The flop bet turned out to be a bit of a lucky move because it is hard to put you on AJ there,


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legenyPS
Joined: 10.03.2011

Thanks guys.
On the flop I wanted to bet bigger than half pot and definitely not 2/3 in order to make this hand cheaper for me - a lots of time I run into similar position where I have thrash hand at the end.

Nitrol, what would be the turn size for you and why?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

22BB. You have to charge all draws. Plus there are many cards that will kill the action on river.


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

As a general rule what you want to do is divide your stack in chunks so that on river we are all in. This means to bet more than pot size, or to check raise sometimes.
I do it as a bluff sometimes too. Bet higher than the pot and regulars fold strong hands as they are not used to such betting. Make sure you don't get caught though. If you get caught you will stack him lighter when you got it (if he remembers).

The mistake that i see in this hand is on river.
Villain can hold a J♥: and he might think " i am not raising because it only makes rake as he would fold." And you end up with small value. Other players are passive and dont raise even with nuts.
River in this spot should be an overbet All IN or rarely a check/raise all in


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generals007
Joined: 17.09.2007

I'd bet larger on all streets except river. It's a draw heavy board, so fish are going to pay you off only if you make the bets so big they become unprofitable. Say you had AK on the flop. Any two face cards except AK, AQ, any two diamonds, 9T and 9J have outs on you, sometimes massive. When you bet low they get to call with ok / only slightly unprofitable odds plus implied odds. When you raise big they either forfeit all that equity or pay the price for the next card. This doesn't change when you have AJ on the flop (i.e. a bluff) because either you use the same bet sizing that you would have used if you had a hand or you're shoutcasting your hand type to any attentive opponents. I often find players that like to raise their draws very low on wet boards so they don't have to pay large sums to see the next card. When I notice, I often raise large with air or not and it pays off because they can't profitably call, ever, and made hands are apparent because the bet sizing is different.
So, always "as played", I would raise 7-8bb on the flop (actually, I wouldn't raise vs 2 with little outs and such a wet board, but assuming I would raise, I'd make it higher), 22bb on turn and all in on river, because you can expect to get paid off by a J here.


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legenyPS
Joined: 10.03.2011

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments in both topic.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I believe we have no enough fold equity on the flop, but it's probably not terrible to cbet a gusthot. The rest is fine.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi, legenyPS,
I have no problem with the way you played this hand -- even the flop CBet.
That board hits your perceived range v well, but it also hits caller's ranges also -- and apparently they thought so too, and called.

One or two spades would have been better, but you take what you get _cry:
I actually like your turn bet sizing a lot. Your hand is no good unless a villain has something worth betting.
If he doesn't, the pot is yours anyway.

If he does, he will call. If the board doesn't pair, and no club comes, you've got the nuts, and you're set up nicely to induce a bluff on the river.

Nice hand.

Best of luck,
VS


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Do have in mind that there are roughly 20 cards that you do not want to see coming.


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