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HRC - issue to understand the calculation

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bballcall
Joined: 11.03.2013

Hello guys,

I need some help because I'm not understanding the range-results that HRC is giving me for my calculation.

raw HH:

PokerStars Hand #138764059806: Tournament #1283048363, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (75/150) - 2015/07/31 15:11:05 CET [2015/07/31 9:11:05 ET]
Table '1283048363 26' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: registr24 (4227 in chips)
Seat 2: gggotcha17 (6216 in chips)
Seat 3: kaneoya (6078 in chips)
Seat 4: Karculya (3600 in chips)
Seat 5: Meth0d Max (4231 in chips)
Seat 6: OverTheTop43 (3291 in chips)
Seat 7: bballcall (5518 in chips)
Seat 8: goba87 (3241 in chips)
Seat 9: TISSO1709 (4190 in chips)
registr24: posts the ante 20
gggotcha17: posts the ante 20
kaneoya: posts the ante 20
Karculya: posts the ante 20
Meth0d Max: posts the ante 20
OverTheTop43: posts the ante 20
bballcall: posts the ante 20
goba87: posts the ante 20
TISSO1709: posts the ante 20
goba87: posts small blind 75
TISSO1709: posts big blind 150
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to bballcall [4s 4c]
registr24: folds
gggotcha17: folds
kaneoya: folds
Karculya: folds
Meth0d Max: folds
OverTheTop43: folds
bballcall: raises 163 to 313
goba87: raises 707 to 1020
TISSO1709: folds
bballcall: raises 4478 to 5498 and is all-in
goba87: calls 2201 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2277) returned to bballcall
FLOP [Tc Qh As]
TURN [Tc Qh As] [5d]
RIVER [Tc Qh As 5d] [Jh]
SHOW DOWN
goba87: shows [Ac Qs] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
bballcall: shows [4s 4c] (a pair of Fours)
goba87 collected 6772 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot 6772 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Qh As 5d Jh]
Seat 1: registr24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: gggotcha17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kaneoya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Karculya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Meth0d Max folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: OverTheTop43 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bballcall (button) showed [4s 4c] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 8: goba87 (small blind) showed [Ac Qs] and won (6772) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 9: TISSO1709 (big blind) folded before Flop

I guess my issue to understand the results is rather a general one -> this hand is just an example....I could have posted any other hand as well.
(I've run the HRC calculation in ChipEV mode and 3bet as last option so instead of the SB raising to ~1k just imagine him shoving his total stack ~3.2k)

I open raise the BTN to 313 and the SB stuffs his 3.2k stack in. I have to call 2908 to win 3864 chips = I get 1.328 : 1 = I need 42,9% Equity to make a call

I open HRC and give the SB the following 3bet range vs my BTN open raise: 32% (22+ Ax k6s+ kto+ q8s+ qto+ j8s+ jto t8s+ 97s+ 87s 76s)

So far so good. Now HRC tells me to call off his shove with 25% (22+ Axs A3o+ k9s+ kto+ qts+ qjo jts)

What I don't understand is: when i run SB's 3bet range vs. my calling range (equilab) I have ~52% equity against him BUT I actually only need 42,9% equity (pot odds 1.328:1). So my calling range should be wider than the 25% that HRC displays.

So where is the catch in my thought process there. What am I missing out?

Greetz and sorry for my bad grammar/spelling.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

First of all I have moved you’re hand to the hand discussion board, because its fits better I think

Tricky one, because it’s likely he will 3bet now a lot tighter than he will 3bet shove. So I would fold 44 here for sure without specific info on him.

The problem if you calculate ranges that the under part of the calling range HRC suggest you have less equity than average. So it’s better to check how much equity 22 has for example against his shoving range. Than you get a better result I think.

If you make you’re calling range so wide that you’re average equity is 42% against his shoving range that hands that will join this ranges has less equity than the 42% you need to make you’re call profitable. So than you make a lot of –EV calls if you will do that in game as well.

Hopefully it’s now a little bit more clear now. Otherwise you can always ask it.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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bballcall
Joined: 11.03.2013

Yo, ty for your answer. It was quite usefull. I've now compared single hands (of lower ranks that HRC adviced me to call) vs his 3bet range and figured out that most of them don't reach 42% equity anymore.

But some hands still have above 42,9% equity which hrc didn't include for example QTo has 43% equity (so why exactly is it excluded from the calling range?)

I mean QTo would be super super tight and probably marginal overall but just technical I still didn't understand why it is excluded when it has above 42,9% equity which I need to make the call profitable.

Thx again for your answer. It settled the dust most likely

Greetz


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