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[Closed] QQ. 0.25/0.50 fr.

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Macias09
Joined: 17.06.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Known players:
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB:62/55/3/1,1/44/0/-/35;BB:107/59/6/1,0/38/100/-/35;MP2:76/24/9/1,4/39/100/-/56;MP3:106/51/0/0,2/28/-/-/56;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.62 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♠, Q♥
2 folds, UTG2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, BU folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (18,00 SB) J♦, T♠, 7♣ (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (15,00 BB) 8♦ (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (21,00 BB) 8♠ (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG2 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 29,00 BB

I dont' like this hand, I think I should raise turn? But on the other hand the pot is 6-handed and every 9 kills me so maybe just play it pasiv and see free SD on the river?


4 replies

What concerns me about the turn is the fact that MP3 bets, since he just called the flop, if you add the fact that he only has an AF of 0.2, he most likely improved himself on the turn,

This either means that he completed his straight (which means you are already beat) or he hit the eight (and maybe was already holding another pair, which would make his hand two pair,since I wouldn't expect such a player to bet a pair when there are two higher cards on the board , again you're beat)

raising him on the turn wouldn't provide you with a lot of info: if someone with an AF of 0.2 bets, he most likely won't fold to your raise, and in both cases were he has you beat he will just reraise you.

In the slim chance he would only be holding an 8 (a pure bluff is very unlikely by such a passive player on a 6 handed game with such a drawheavy board), he hits trips on the river, and again you are beat, so I'd just call the bet, and c/f on the river.

Maybe I'm just a scared weak player, but I don't see how a raise on the turn can help you here


Kimber88
Joined: 08.07.2008
PokerStrategist

Good analysis lennert9.

I think the chances of being beat here are enormous with so many players in the hand.


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006
Elite Grinder

i like the turn call i guess. it really looks like you are beat but you have outs. river is ugly because the pot is so gigantic.
after everybody checks to you i guess you have to value bet the river. but now i´m really confused after UTG2 check/raised like million people and the pot is tht huge.
but it´s a good spot for me to mark another thread for cirith expecially because i want him to have a look at this thread as well :)


I like the riverbet as well. After the raisde you can savely fold. You are never ahead anymore so just fold.


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