Sandwich - 3bet pot multi with OESD

I think flop is fold. Co folding too much vs 3bet. OK here he has good price but still he can fold a lot. What do you expect BB range is after coldcall 3bet OOP?

would estimated BB range as quoted in post "looks like TT-JJ & AQ i guess?"

Do you mean just fold to CO's lead? or call the lead and fold to the raise?

Sorry I missed the range. Your range can be good but it can be also TT+, AQ+ - not sure what people doing on your limit - personally if I´m playing against some observant reg I don´t mind to calling here even KK+ because 4bet here looks very strong and people don´t do enough with bluff (including me).

I would fold after CO lead because we don´t closing the action (maybe it´s weak?) and BB can raise to protect his overpairs.

You can call preflop with your hand too.
BB seems like an active player, so his cold call can be a small PP or a SC.

It´s a good point, I don´t 3bet this without special reason but some people do. Also depends how to CO react on 3bet and cbets in 3bet. Also if BB squeeze a lot (which is possible given his stats), 3bet can be OK.

Originally posted by Ales851
Sorry I missed the range. Your range can be good but it can be also TT+, AQ+ - not sure what people doing on your limit - personally if I´m playing against some observant reg I don´t mind to calling here even KK+ because 4bet here looks very strong and people don´t do enough with bluff (including me).

I would fold after CO lead because we don´t closing the action (maybe it´s weak?) and BB can raise to protect his overpairs.

I think folding is probably OK OTF especially as some of our outs are tainted - what about raising his cbet? To an observant opponant I can crediable rep all the strong hands including the nutted overpairs & the 6x and our hand probably isn't strong enough to call given we are in the middle

think cold calling AA/KK is a mistake loosing EV from letting him in the pot that cheap. Because we aren't bluffing enough then the adjustment should be to bluff more and not to cold call those hands but i know i can make pretty big laydowns to cold 4's vs the regs on my limit because majority are 4bet nits.

We are MW, and the preflop aggressor is still to act, so with raising we are isolating vs a range of hands that crush us.
We have decent equity and we can call but after the raise, we can think of folding.

I pretty like 3bet pre because WHY NOT ? ♦ Especially on the button

Flops nice draw , pretty standard call and easy fold vs bb raise who polarizes to 6x and monster draws , Well played

Oh and I preffer making bigger sizing with this type of hands simply because I want to win it pre or in the worse scenarion play bigger pot IP with initiative

Originally posted by nitrol
We are MW, and the preflop aggressor is still to act, so with raising we are isolating vs a range of hands that crush us.
We have decent equity and we can call but after the raise, we can think of folding.

I am the pf aggressor

I think it depends on his WTSD.

With the WTSD stat we can kind of decide how much of a station he is. If its low like most nits, 24 or lower, then I think we can actually raise flop to blast him off his 88-JJ. If its a bit higher I think we could still consider a call for half pot. Sure some outs are tainted but we can also bluff him on some cards such as Q/K/A, especially Qs/Ks/As are great cards to bet turn when he checks to give up.

The raise is kinda suspect to me, like I doubt its nuts often, but more so two overs +FD and weaker overpairs. If I had JJ+ I'd be getting it in vs BB here.

Sorry. You are the pfa but still ee are mw with a player yet to act.