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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

hello, so I hit this situation that doesn't arise very often, MP was passive pre but agro fish postflop, so he had a hand, so I decided to set mine, I think he could of played AK in the same way, the question isn't about this anyway, its about BTN, his range is a flush draw 95% of the time, so is it better to call MP's raise after BTN and shove on a none spade turn, since BTN's equity is halved, and we can fold for cheaper when flush hits?

CO: $15.90
BTN: $18.74
SB: $4.39
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $14.47
MP: $6.28

Pre Flop: ($0.13) Hero is BB with 9 :spade: 9 :club:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.88) 9 :heart: A :spade: T :spade: (4 players)
Hero bets $0.65, MP raises to $1.30, CO folds, BTN calls $1.30, Hero raises to $4.79 all in, MP raises to $6.07 all in, BTN calls $4.77

Turn: ($17.81) 5 :heart: (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($17.81) 3 :diamond: (3 players - 2 are all in)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved you’re hand to the hand discussion board, because it’s fits better there.

As cash game fish I would stack off the flop as well. Normal I would always check/raise on a flop like this against a MP that like to play aggressive post-flop. As played you only beat against TT and AA. He could play AT or a flush draw also like this I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

No, no, no... MW we must lead here.
The idea for just calling on this board is not ok. There are a lot of draws and we want to put all money in while we are ahead. We have a redraw so push after the raise is fine.


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

I did lead on this board,


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, you did. And you can go even bigger.


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Kalecia
Joined: 28.08.2015

Originally posted by nitrol
Yes, you did. And you can go even bigger.

+1 for POT

Folding a set might be an option but not on this board structure, too many draws


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

I think your all missing the question that I asked please reread it

its about BTN, his range is a flush draw 95% of the time, so is it better to call MP's raise after BTN and shove on a none spade turn, since BTN's equity is halved, and we can fold for cheaper when flush hits?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yo, IceElf :)
Reread my first post. :)

In addition - why do you call preflop? I guess you want to hit a set.
Now that you have a set, the board is full with draws, why don't you try to put all money in when you are ahead and when many draws can call you and make you richer?


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Sorry I misunderstand that first post, but when you re word it like that, basically we know mps, range is strong pre for raise but hes agro postflop, since I was watching him so his range is AK, TT, AT, AA. other player was tag so he was calling with SC or small pockets since TT would raise and small pockets would fold that left him with SC now lets look at some equity calculations on the flop and tun

This is the flop equity I have vs this range, so if I shove the flop I have 47% chance to win
Board: 9hAsTs
Equity Win Tie
MP2 22.17% 22.14% 0.03% { AA, TT, AKs, AKo, ATo }

BU 30.12% 30.09% 0.03% { AsKs, AsQs, KsQs, AsJs, KsJs, QsJs, AsTs, KsTs, QsTs, JsTs, As9s, Ks9s, Qs9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, Ks8s, Qs8s, Js8s, Ts8s, 9s8s, As7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, 8s7s, As6s, 9s6s, 8s6s, 7s6s, As5s, 8s5s, 7s5s, 6s5s, As4s, 7s4s, 6s4s, 5s4s, As3s, 7s3s, 6s3s, 5s3s, As2s, 6s2s }

BB 47.71% 47.71% 0.00% { 9s9c }

since I know the range now, if I call and fold to a spade on the turn I save my self $4 odd 50% of the time, if I call and shove on a blank turn lets just say 2♥: here is the chance of winning vs ranges on blank rivers

Board: 9hAsTs2c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 21.80% 21.80% 0.00% { AA, TT, AKs, AKo, ATo }

BU 21.38% 21.38% 0.00% { AsKs, AsQs, KsQs, AsJs, KsJs, QsJs, AsTs, KsTs, QsTs, JsTs, As9s, Ks9s, Qs9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, Ks8s, Qs8s, Js8s, Ts8s, 9s8s, As7s, Ts7s, 9s7s, 8s7s, As6s, 9s6s, 8s6s, 7s6s, As5s, 8s5s, 7s5s, 6s5s, As4s, 7s4s, 6s4s, 5s4s, As3s, 7s3s, 6s3s, 5s3s, As2s, 6s2s }

BB 56.82% 56.82% 0.00% { 9s9c }

My chance of winning is greater by 10% on the turn to the flop does that justify a call/shove turn play, will it be more profitable in the long run,


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