Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

PLO Buffet (4) - Catch of the Day with AhJcAs2c

4 Posts
3 Users
0 Reactions
427 Views
Eetung
Joined: 22.03.2010

Hi folks!

Just finished the fourth serving and I am well-fed now!

However! I have a question about a hand during the Video.
I have written the question under the video but somehow I believe this forum might be better.

PLO Buffet No. 4

The hand starts 44:44

We are in the BB with A♥:J♣:A♠:2♣:

UTG decided to raise 3bb.
BTN called.
SB folds.
We flat.

FLop: (9,5bb)
Q♣:5♠:6♣:

Hero checks, UTG checks and the BTN aswell.

Turn: (9,5bb)
Q♣:5♠:6♣: K♣:

Hero bets 5bb. UTG raises to 16bb. BTN folds. Hero calles.

River: (41,5bb)
Q♣:5♠:6♣: K♣: 8♥:

Hero checks. UTG bets 31bb. Hero calls.

The topic is bluffcatching. Kyyberi explains us pretty well why Villain probably does not have the A high flush.
Why wouldn't we check / ship the river for value?

If villain does not very often holds the nuts. We have the nuts. ( Obvious :coolface: )

If villain truely does not have the A high flush. He will probably call worse after he comitted so much on the river.

What do you think?

//Edit:
Stacksizes would be nice.
Hero and BTN have 100bb
UTG has 150bb


Reply
Quote
3 replies
Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Most often villain has nut flush or total bluff here, like bare Ac. If we shove, he will be folding pretty much everything, unless we have special dynamic that would make he herocall. Maybe Ac and straight that knows we cant have nuts could do it. It's still thin at lower limits, unless villain is totall whale.


Reply
Quote
Coach
Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

When opponent bets turn and river, his range is most of the time Ac or nutflush. Best flush we can beat is T-high, and I don't think he calls our river raise with that.

To make a profitable valuebet, we need to beat over 50% of villain's calling range. As his calling range for our river raise would be weighted towards nutflush, we can't valuebet. Like if he is calling 60% with nuts and 40% with smaller flushes, we can't raise.

This is really important to understand, even if we beat 99% of opponent's range it doesn't mean we can valuebet. If that 1% is the only hands he will call us it's -EV to bet.


Reply
Quote
Eetung
Joined: 22.03.2010

Thanks for the explanation guys! That sounds reasonable!


Reply
Quote