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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

SB is unknown reg, playing 4 tables.

We are 124bb vs unknown reg. I 4bet, because I expect him to call my 4bet w hands like TT-QQ,AQ-AK, when he 5b it's never a bluff IMO and I'm not so sure if he would do this w AK or QQ, at zoom players are more tighter.

My questions:
1) Would you call his 5b or shove? (For me calling looks bad)
2) Do you think that being 124bb deep is still good to stack off w KK vs unknown reg at zoom? (IMO it's very close)

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2807747
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Hero (BTN): $31.04
SB: $32.39
BB: $41.54
UTG: $10.91
MP: $20.38
CO: $27.31

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K :diamond: K :club:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.80, SB raises to $9.50, Hero ???


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Sb vs BTN, I'd definitely ship it. I play NL16 zoom and have played NL25 zoom. I agree he's never bluffing but I think his range is QQ+, AK. I don't think he only does this with KK+.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

What would be your deadline stack to don't stack off KK pre in these positions, 150bb+?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by LuckyManFromLT
What would be your deadline stack to don't stack off KK pre in these positions, 150bb+?

I'm not sure. Maybe 150bb+ is right, but I would rather call the 3bet then than 4bet/fold.


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by LuckyManFromLT
What would be your deadline stack to don't stack off KK pre in these positions, 150bb+?

I'm not sure. Maybe 150bb+ is right, but I would rather call the 3bet then than 4bet/fold.

+1, unless you click it back


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

KK is normal stack off.
130bb+ is a line where we should get more careful.


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zoty79
Joined: 31.03.2010

Without reads, i would fold. I look more often in AA than in KK, or a worse hand.


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

Since i had same question, i have talked to zoom NL50 top reg , who said that he have folded KK prefop 2 times against one opponent when he had specific read on very big sample, all the other times 100% stack off pre flop, those times when villain have AA is just a variance, theres many other combos where we will be favor


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Completely agree with the above said. There will be times we will face the top of villain's range but that doesn't mean he plays only AA this way.


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