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AQ Tip tripps 3way River spot vs check call/donk

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Known Players:
MP2: $27.85 - 111 bb
MP3: $26.95 - 108 bb
CO: $25.00 - 100 bb
BU: $43.77 - 175 bb
SB: $27.49 - 110 bb
BB: $21.34 - 85 bb

0.10/0.25 No Limit Hold'em (6 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.20409.2

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♦, Q♣
SB posts small blind ($0.10), BB posts big blind ($0.25), MP2 raises for $0.75, Hero calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: ($3.10 - 12.40 bb) Q♥, T♦, 2♣ (4 Players)
2 checks, Hero bets $1, CO folds, BB raises for $3, MP2 calls, Hero calls

Turn: ($12.10 - 48.40 bb) Q♠ (3 Players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $5.90, Hero calls, BB folds

River: ($23.90 - 95.60 bb) 3♥ (2 Players)
MP2 bets $18.20 and is all in, Hero calls and is all in, MP2 gets uncalled back ($0.90)

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PREFLOP
I think AQo is very close in these positions. My database shows a profitable call, and I don't expect the players at NL25 behind me to play aggressively enough to be forced to 3bet the hand as for example snowie advises.
Is that still reasonable in today's games?

FLOP
I was playign without a HUD
It gets checked to me, UTG regular checks and BB recreational player checks as well, I want to bet really wide here, and the board is really dry, so I bet around 1/3 pot to get value from their weak ranges

TURN
both call and MP2 goes ahead and leads. This does not make much sense to me, only hands that do make sense would be KQ, QJs, and some QTs, QQ that slowplayed on the flop. I don't have to protect against many hands, and I have position, so I think calling is my only option here

RIVER
He decides to shove. At this point I can't see him bluffing pretty much ever, he should have close to no air in his range as he check called the flop against two people. It's also hard to see QJ shoving, I guess KQ is possible as is split pot. So as this reasonably high in my range I've decided to go ahead and call AQ, I would fold QJs and cry (call?) with KQs here.

Did I approach the hand well, and what's the worst hand I should be calling here on the river?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Preflop I prefer 3betting because even though calling might be profitable, I believe that 3betting is more profitable in the long run (mostly because of fold equity, of course). Perfectly fine to call, of course.

We got raised on the flop, but it's funny that the raiser decided to check/fold the turn. Probably he had something like KJ which he didn't want to continue on paired board or maybe some random with which he tried to steal the pot given that our bet size was small. I'm not sure about our flop size, but might be that you are right and it will be more profitable in the long run than something like 1/2.

I agree that there is no much sense in raising the turn. I don't see any worse hand than Qx playing like this by the turn, so at that point only AQ,KQ,QJs,QTs,TT,22 makes sense and I think that's pretty much the range that he has on the turn/river.

OTR we need 29,60% of equity to call. Against AQ,KQ,QJs,QTs,TT,22 we have 43%, so this is a clear call to me.

Overall, I think the approach is fine, but I'm certainly a worse player than you are. Also, for me AQ is the worse hand I'm calling OTR. With KQ vs the range I assigned him we have just 17% of equity and we could maybe even fold the turn with it.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

For me the call of MP2 after the fish raise indicates some power, maybe TT. I don't see him checking TP hand MW, with fish in the hand. Maybe sometimes he would play like that hand like QJ or KQs with some backdoor FD.
Since you probably don't call 22 from MP probably the weakest hand to call should be AQ and hope he also has a few bluffs on the river.


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

i guess TT and KQ is most of hes range. mybe 22 are there, whitout read i dont think he will show air at showdown


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

For me MP will bet TP hand MW on flop. So we must exclude them...


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randomdonk
Joined: 02.08.2009

villains thought process:

"niceee flopped it, gotta slowplay this, looks too strong if i cbet 4way. (maaaybe he goes as far as "one of these guys is gonna bet if they have something with the fish in there")"

"well can't 3bet the flop now, looks super strong, lets call"

"nice, one of these guys must have a queen, time to get a stack!"


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