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Button versus Blinds - Flush Draw

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xin1575
Joined: 22.10.2015

Seat 1: EP ($7.16 in chips)
Seat 2: MP ($0.77 in chips)
Seat 3: CO ($10.23 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero BTN ($9.90 in chips) - VPIP 17, PFR 15, Steal 13, AF 7, AFq 58
Seat 5: SB ($4.95 in chips) - VPIP 14, PFR 12, FoldtoSteal 86, AF 1, AFq 20, 44 hands

Seat 6: BB ($4.79 in chips) - VPIP 46, PFR 12, FoldtoSteal 33, AF 2, AFq 36, 26 hands
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to Hero [7♣: 6♣: ]
EP: folds
MP: folds
CO: folds
Hero: raises $0.15 to $0.15
SB: calls $0.13
BB: calls $0.10
FLOP [8♥: J♣: K♣: ]
SB: checks
BB: bets $0.22
Hero: calls $0.22
SB: raises $0.88 to $0.88
BB: folds
Hero: ?

My table image has been fairly tight, so I though this looked like a good spot and hand to steal with. I had noticed SB had been tight as well, and the BB seemed like a fish. Also worth noting that the SB had recently gotten stacked a several hands earlier, but I never saw him do anything spewy (tilt).

I wasn't worried when the BB donked out on this flop, figuring I could easily float him here and take the pot from him if he checks the Turn or try to stack him if I hit my flush. What I didn't expect was the check raise from the SB. I think I have to put him on a strong range here like 88, JJ, KJ. I would think he would have 3bet me preflop with KK. Maybe he's doing this with A8s, AJs, or AKs.

I'm getting 27% to call here, but reviewing this hand later on I'm wondering if I should call here. If put him on a range of AA, KK, JJ, 88, AcJ*, Ac8*, AK, JK, 9T I've got 35.88% equity. So this definitely seems like a call. Curious if my thought process looks right here.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

SB looks pretty tight based on that small sample. His x/r versus 2 opponents looks very strong. I don't believe he has AcJ* or Ac8* in his range. I also think 9T is not part of his range here very often if it is not 9cTc. Also AA,KK,AK would have 3bet pre. I think villains range is closer to {JJ,88,AcQc,Tc9c,KJo,KJs} in which case we have 9% equity.


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xin1575
Joined: 22.10.2015

Thanks for the input! I agree, I should narrow opponent's range to what you have listed. My PokerTracker Equity Calculator says I have 28.61% equity against that range though.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by xin1575
Thanks for the input! I agree, I should narrow opponent's range to what you have listed. My PokerTracker Equity Calculator says I have 28.61% equity against that range though.

That's weird. Now when I run it again I get 29.96% with equilab.. I don't know what was wrong the first time I did that.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It does not change much the situation.


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zoty79
Joined: 31.03.2010

The thing is, you have to ask youself, is he really going to pay you of, if a club comes?


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As well , it's a pretty strong move here , even that , i think JJ+ will 3bet you , only if he it's good and call pre to induce the bb?? anyway i think i can call one the flop. but if i hit the turn..i don't know how much money i can get.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Difficult to get paid if you hit a club plus horrible reverse implied odds vs AcTc etc. Just fold.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

Equity is the wrong thing to calculate here, because this isn't an all in situation and we're unlikely to see a free river if we miss the turn. There's $1.77 in the pot and we're asked to pay $0.66 so pot odds are 1:2.7. Odds of completing a flush are 1:4.2. So we would need to be paid another $0.99 when we hit the turn for call to break even: roughly we would need villain to call a half-pot bet. The problem is as said that if a :club: comes on the turn, it will be obvious. Nevertheless, I'm not sure villain will just give up a hand like JJ. Also as said there are the reverse implied odds from running into a nut flush if we complete. I think it's marginal, so you can call or fold depending on how much you like variance.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We will not get paid off if we hit, so folding is the right play here.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

You really think villains at NL5 are folding a set (or even 2P) to a HPSB on a club turn (even though they have outs to improve to a FH)? We're not making a fortune here, but it seems very pessimistic to think that we can never get paid at all.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think that we will not get paid all the time.


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