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88 facing an open shove from tight player

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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

UTG 10/8 3bet 5.3 - 80 hands

ICMizer says I should call here (7.5%) 77+,ATs+,AJo+
but that is assuming hes shoving 22+,A2s+,A7o+,K9s+,KJo+,QTs+,JTs
I'm not sure a player who is 10/8 is shoving 20% of hands here

Poker Stars, $3.11 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 3,017 (25.1 bb)
BB: 708 (5.9 bb)
UTG: 1,210 (10.1 bb)
MP: 1,760 (14.7 bb)
CO: 4,064 (33.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,741 (22.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 8
UTG raises to 1,195 and is all-in, 5 folds

Results:

Spoiler

390 pot
UTG mucked and won 390 (255 net)


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Grisuuu
Joined: 23.04.2014

Hi Slippy,

i would call, i think he might not shove as wide as Icmmizer is assuming he might be shoving something like (33+,A4s+,A8o,KTs+,KJ, QJs ~17%), but 88 is Bottom of my Calling-Range here, i also would bear in Mind the SB Player which covers us, also a tight Fold here is good Option

cheers Tony


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Hi,

The player is 10/8, but your stats are not reliable here. He might have been tight early in the tournament, and the game is way different when a player has push/fold stack there. So I would be inclined to call 88 here, especially when we are not in danger even if we lose the hand.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

I take the point about early on and push/fold time possibly skewing his stats.
Part of teh reason I didnt call was because I was quite happy with my stack and didnt fancy a flip on a table where I felt I could outplay them as there were plenty of bad players, as it turned out I went card dead after this and ended up bubbling.
If I call and lose I've still got 12BB so not totally dead, yeah probably should have called....


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