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2NL: good winrates by position

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Hello!

I'm a beginner player. I've played 55k hands in the last two months playing 6+ tables with a winrate of 10BB/100+.

What I'm wondering is what are good winrate stats by position. I think 20bb/100 is possible overall, so i'm not yet satisfied, and stats by position would tell me where i need to improve. Specifically, I'm losing so much on the blinds i'm embarrassed to say. Also, I lose a good chunk of what I win from the fish to good regs in all positions.

If there is someone with a big enough sample size and a good / crushing winrate please post a screenshot, that would help me alot.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would say following positional stats are normal but I'm not 100% sure:

SB -20
BB -30
EP 10
MP 20
CO 20
BTN 40

I have 90k hand sample with ok winrate. My stats are:

SB -30
BB -35
EP 5
MP 15
CO 18
BTN 42

I have some problems with my blind play but I'm trying to fix it now. But I have understood that -20 - -40 is close to normal from the blinds.


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what is your overall winrate?


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

10bb/100 is very good winrate.
in Nl10 and above everything 3bb+/100 is good!


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

My current winrate is 3bb/100. Last 10k hands I have played with 10bb/100 but that is pretty small sample. Sustaining over 10bb/100 winrate over 100k hands is pretty hard imo, even at NL2. As Aerox said, 10bb/100 is very good and at higher limits even 3bb/100 is considered good. Positional winrates should be around those I posted above. Blinds are normally negative around 20-30, other positions should be positive and button should be clearly most profitable somewhere over 30 i guess. What are your positional stats?


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JCSeerup
Joined: 14.12.2010

This is my wr for this month playing 2NL and 5NL, could prolly do a little better from the button, but aside from that I feel this is a pretty good wr.


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

as far as I know biggest winner in Nl2 is BlackRain69 whit 14bb/100 over 2.5millions of hand. And i doubt that that there is some other player in NL2 that is better than him.


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JCSeerup
Joined: 14.12.2010

Originally posted by Aerox232
as far as I know biggest winner in Nl2 is BlackRain69 whit 14bb/100 over 2.5millions of hand. And i doubt that that there is some other player in NL2 that is better than him.

Is there an updated list of the best NL2 players to be found somewhere?


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I know, i've read his book :) It would sure be nice to see his positional stats. Does anyone know where i could contact him?


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

Originally posted by gabl136
I know, i've read his book :) It would sure be nice to see his positional stats. Does anyone know where i could contact him?

i used to cantact whit him via Twitter pm!


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Volrath89
Joined: 23.07.2008

I have 100k hands with a WR of over 10bb: (that was September, October and a few days of November 2015)

It's NL5, though.

(and btw i think in nl2 is perfectly possible to win 20bb/100... 15bb/100 is possible in Nl5, 10bb/10 for Nl10, 8 for NL25, and so on... does anyone want to prop bet? :P)


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JCSeerup
Joined: 14.12.2010

I'll bet neither 20bb/100 at NL2 nor 15bb/100 at NL5 is possible for a micro reg.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by JCSeerup
I'll bet neither 20bb/100 at NL2 nor 15bb/100 at NL5 is possible for a micro reg.

Agree. I also think there is not so big a skill gap between NL2 and NL5 it would be 5bb/100 less in NL5. There is a challenge for you :) BTW: I admire your SB winrate :f_thumbsup:


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008

I win over 14bb/100 in a 150k hands sample on NL2.... 20 tabling, so I think that is possible to win 20bb/100 on NL2 if you play less tables


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JCSeerup
Joined: 14.12.2010

I'm ready to bet against it!


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

There are huge gap between nl2 and nl5.


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

yep. im ready to bet too against 20bb/100 on 100k sample!


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Aerox232
There are huge gap between nl2 and nl5.

Really? Huge? Imo there is a bigger gap between NL5 and NL10.


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Volrath89
Joined: 23.07.2008

Originally posted by Aerox232
yep. im ready to bet too against 20bb/100 on 100k sample!

Oh well, I'd do it if the prop bet is interesting enough to spend that much time playing NL2


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

Originally posted by Volrath89

Originally posted by Aerox232
yep. im ready to bet too against 20bb/100 on 100k sample!

Oh well, I'd do it if the prop bet is interesting enough to spend that much time playing NL2

1k$


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