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AKo in SB vs BB (6-max zoom)

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EugeneSalami
Joined: 04.11.2013

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $5.27 (105.4 bb)
BB: $2.84 (56.8 bb)
UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
MP: $5.40 (108 bb)
CO: $5.24 (104.8 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) K 7 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.62) T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.38, BB raises to $0.76, Hero folds

First I want to add that villain snapcalled and snapraised.
I was thinking villain has a lot of 7x hands in this spot and allthough I am getting a good price I thought he would shove the river a lot at which poit I couldn't fold annymore.
Was this a too tight fold on my part?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

hum... Interesting.
Snapcall and snapraise are very different indeed. Snapcall means "weak not tricky" hands, good to call but not good to raise. If it was good enough to raise, he would spend some time thinking.
Snapraise means often that its so good that doesnt need to think to raise it.

For me, he was outplaying u. Ur hand is really on top of ur range, but its easy for him to think u was just trying to steal the bb.
I would not have folded.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

In the blind battle BB will be very wide here. I like following the Baluga and folding. Plus there are a lot of hands that are not good for us on river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think you can bet bigger OTF and OTT. You can fold to his raise.


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EugeneSalami
Joined: 04.11.2013

I was thinking that since it was a paired flop villain doesn't hit often so I don't want to scare him away OTF.
Also, when he was bluffing I think he would made it bigger. That's what made me fold allthough I was getting a good price.

Originally posted by Afulibador
Snapcall and snapraise are very different indeed. Snapcall means "weak not tricky" hands, good to call but not good to raise. If it was good enough to raise, he would spend some time thinking.
Snapraise means often that its so good that doesnt need to think to raise it.

I agree to snapcall but I think snapraise often means that he was already planning it before I even made the raise. So it could mean 7x or it could mean he wants to bluff me since it's blindbattle and he knows it's a common bluff spot.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think it doesn't matter if you bet $0.21 or $0.16. If villain is going to fold, he is going to fold to 1/2 pot bet also.


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EugeneSalami
Joined: 04.11.2013

Yeah, youre right, in this case that's definitly true :). Just my general gameplan though on paired board, but now I am thinking I should only do that with middle pocket pairs and indeed make it bigger with top pairs since I am missing out some value.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Just a sidenote : paired boards a very scary and get a lot of folds...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Sidenote to the sidenote. I think we are cbetting this board also when we do not hit because we have good fold equity so it makes sense to bet it also when we hit.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by EugeneSalami
I was thinking that since it was a paired flop villain doesn't hit often so I don't want to scare him away OTF.
Also, when he was bluffing I think he would made it bigger. That's what made me fold allthough I was getting a good price.

Originally posted by Afulibador
Snapcall and snapraise are very different indeed. Snapcall means "weak not tricky" hands, good to call but not good to raise. If it was good enough to raise, he would spend some time thinking.
Snapraise means often that its so good that doesnt need to think to raise it.

I agree to snapcall but I think snapraise often means that he was already planning it before I even made the raise. So it could mean 7x or it could mean he wants to bluff me since it's blindbattle and he knows it's a common bluff spot.

That too. Thats why I said I think he was outplaying u.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by la55i
Sidenote to the sidenote. I think we are cbetting this board also when we do not hit because we have good fold equity so it makes sense to bet it also when we hit.

Agree. If u play one way when hit and another when dont, will be very, very easy to play against u.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Sidenote to the sidenotes sidenote: this is NL5 ZOOM and villain is unknown so we don't have to worry about being exploited.. I said it because I know nitrol would have said it eventually :)


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

la551, hahahaha
Sidenote**** Get too used to that and will be hard to lose this bad habit.
Disguising your play is always interesting.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
Sidenote to the sidenotes sidenote: this is NL5 ZOOM and villain is unknown so we don't have to worry about being exploited.. I said it because I know nitrol would have said it eventually :)

Not that funny.
If I ever said it it was as a piece of advice.
On paired boards with 1 high card we should barrel like hell on nl5. This board is scaring villains.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i
Sidenote to the sidenotes sidenote: this is NL5 ZOOM and villain is unknown so we don't have to worry about being exploited.. I said it because I know nitrol would have said it eventually :)

Not that funny.
If I ever said it it was as a piece of advice.
On paired boards with 1 high card we should barrel like hell on nl5. This board is scaring villains.

Of course, and if thats true, we should do that hitting or not.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not understand what you are trying to say here.


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