99 river decision

Villain can x/c OTT with overs and FD. After river check I don't think he has Tx or 88 but as you said JJ and QQ are still a part of his range. If you bet here, will he call with worse hand? If you believe villain could call a small bet with smaller pocket pair or A high you can bet something like 15bb?

Good call pre flop
OTF the board is so dry that you can call 1/2 pot ( you can assume that villain will continue on such a flop with most of his range)
OTT nothing really changes a few more draws open but that's about it
OTR nothing changes and you're in the same position as on the flop where you dont really know where you stand but been ip you have the power to control the pot. I think you are not going to fold any better hand by betting. I hardly see him calling with 77 or worse , the only hand you might get thin value from is a hand like A8s if he has any in his range that got there... everything else will fold to your bet. given that there is very little thin value and it is unlikely that a a bet will work as a bluff you should check behind OTR.

I like the x on river. We beat all bluffs but lose to better pairs and Tx. Plus we would fold our equity share vs a raise and I do not like it.

I think he does have a lot of 8x and smaller pairs with that line, but checking back is totally reasonable because he has plenty of value combos we don't beat.

Checking back seems the best option to me. Not much value betting river w this board.

I hardly see him calling with 77 or worse , the only hand you might get thin value from is a hand like A8s if he has any in his range that got there...

depneds on betsieze. I think if we bet like 10 bbs, he could call with 77 , A8 easily.

I like the x on river. We beat all bluffs but lose to better pairs and Tx. Plus we would fold our equity share vs a raise and I do not like it.

now need to think - does his bluffs make sense. What value hands can c/r river? But since it is a NL4, of course he can have even Tx but if we think that he does not have anything to c/r for valye, then we can call a raise and win even more money.

Of course its easier to check, becuase I am not sure if my thinking is correct. By checkng only mistake might be that we miss value.

Our hand is a bluff catcher. We should not bet with bliff catchers.

Get the free showdown and be happy about it ♠_thumbsup:

Of course. This is a type of hand we want to see showdown with.

I was going to say if we had something like 56s we could bluff river... but I dont think we can get to this river w this hand hahaha

I think just checking back here is good. The only thing you can beat is a bluff and 8x. Take the free showdown.

I like checking back. Since bluffing doesn't make sense with this hand because better hands (probably) wont fold, I think we can thinly value bet vs some lower pocket pairs and A-high. To achieve that, we can bet very small, like 1/4 of the pot. Would be tricky if he raises, but I believe we should fold then.

Originally posted by Alleen86
I like checking back. Since bluffing doesn't make sense with this hand because better hands (probably) wont fold, I think we can thinly value bet vs some lower pocket pairs and A-high. To achieve that, we can bet very small, like 1/4 of the pot. Would be tricky if he raises, but I believe we should fold then.

Cold be done. Villain seems to be a fish, so we can play w our bets more and be a bit less disguised.

If we bet we are not disguising anything. We target a portion of villain's range that ee think can call this size. It is not about our hand.

Nitrol, pay attention. I m talking about disguising the meaning of our bet.
If its a good player, he can see we are targeting a really weak portion of hands, and figure it out that ourselves couldnt call a raise.

A small bet can mean several things and there is nothing so special - you either want to see showdown or make him fold for that price , or you want to make his weaker hands to call.

Agree that if we do bet, it should be small. We can encourage a hero call with something like A8s, 66 or even Ac5c by betting 8-12BB.