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[6-max] My loosest call on the blind ever...

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 94)
BTN: 33.5 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 20)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 310.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♣ 8♥

fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 7♣ 8♣ J♣
Hero bets 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 4♦
Hero bets 6.5 BB, BTN raises to 13 BB, Hero raises to 306 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 16 BB and is all-in

River: (67.5 BB, 2 players) T♥

Hero shows 4♣ 8♥ (Two Pair, Eights and Fours)
(Pre 32%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 68%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 65 BB

My Thoughts: Was putting him on 1 high club card and one offsuit. I guess I made a really bad play from preflop to the river trying to bust a really bad player, is it ever ok to call there and see a flop one time in 1k hands?

Thanks!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Two things:
1) Fold preflop. No need to defend this hand even vs a wide opener. Here villain is shortstack and it is even worse to call.
2) Playing for stacks with our hand on a monoboard is not ok.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

imo, Its not ok calling w this hand preflop.
If the guy is shortstack, its one more reason to prefer high equity hands, that means hands more capable of doing top pairs and less speculative ones.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think calling pre is not adviceable. I'm not saying it is terrible, it was just 1bb more...

My main question : "My Thoughts: Was putting him on 1 high club card and one offsuit."

Why?

It is pretty obvious that re-raise shoving with less than top 2 pair on a board where flush and straight and sets are possible is not good.


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I see its pretty much a terrible play from start to finish, just wanted to make sure it is THAT bad haha. Thanks guys!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

xavez0,
I think you are missing the point.
We do not write here to tell you how you play terrible and how cool we are. Not even close.
Better ask questions if something is not clear.
I will give you some advice:
1. Look at you open and calling ranges. Seems you call too loose and this may be a reason to lose money. Watch vids here. There are some good ones where you can find explanation.
2. Do not try to guess villain's hand. You can't. Better try to think in ranges.
3. Be very cautious on monoboards. People that start raising and pumping the pot do this for a reason.
4. Always think twice before hitting the Raise button. You should have a plan how you are going to win that money back.
5. Speaking of plan - always have a plan for the hand.
Last. Do not pay just to see what he has... :)
Good luck.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by xavez0
I see its pretty much a terrible play from start to finish, just wanted to make sure it is THAT bad haha. Thanks guys!

hahaha
U are welcome, friend _thumbsup:
If u are just beginning, its good to watch some videos here from pokerstrategy and start fixing these initial leaks like ranges and other stuff. Will help a lot.
Good luck


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Thanks again Afulibador and nitrol. My question was actually if its AWAYS wrong to call on that spot. I actually fold that kind of hand 100% of the times no matter my position, its completely out of my range. But it just happened that i made this weird play that went real bad, and wanted to listen to you guys opinion.
About not trying to guess my opponent 2 cards, but to think in his ranges, im still working on it and find it hard, but i understand the concept. I'll surely work on it.

About my background since you guys asked: Got my free bankroll from Pokerstrategy on Mansion Poker on 2009. Got busted playing small stakes strategy and have been absent since then. On december last year i decided to make a small deposit on Pokerstars and give it another go. I've been reading A LOT, watching A LOT of videos, i could say im almost obsessive with getting good lol. It's the fist time im posting hands tho, and i love the feedback! The game is becoming clearer and clearer every day, and im winning overall on NL2. Two days ago i tried NL5 ZOOM, 15 minutes later i was $10 down lmao. So im sticking with NL2 until im crushing it.

Thanks once again guys! It's been really nice to hear your opinions!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Keep up the good work.
Try attending the coaching sessions. You can ask questions there and get good answers too.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Great xavez0, I was busted a few times years ago too.
The most important advice my experience has to offer u at the very beginning is: Respect ur bankroll.
Go get them _drink:


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