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NL10 Zoom AA - "We don't make hero calls"

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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 42.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 110.9 BB (VPIP: 5.38, PFR: 1.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 95)
BB: 50 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 12.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 113)
UTG: 61.6 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG+1: 181.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 96.5 BB
Hero (MP+1): 146.8 BB
MP+2: 84.8 BB
CO: 218.1 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ A♣

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (23.5 BB, 2 players) 5♦ 7♦ T♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 15 BB, UTG+1 raises to 170.9 BB and is all-in Hero....?

Spoiler

Hero folded.
UTG+1 wins 51.1 BB


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Here I'd definitely resort to game theory and find an easy fold. It is still 100bb+ to go, and you'd really need to provide some additional very strong evidence for me to think about calling.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

It's a pity I don't have a thousand hands on the villain. It would be fun to know :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The comforting thought is that you'll have enough sets (and even two pair if you are aggressive enough preflop) in your range to automatically get compensated. Notes are much more important than any amount of stats. Look at showdowns with this dude involved for free reads, but don't pay 100bb+ for the info.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Agree with the fold here. We are deep and do not want yo play for stacks.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Playing deep I think it is ok to fold here.


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

To me this shove looks a lot more like K♦:Q♦:,8♦:9♦: than a set. But since you block A♦:K♦: and A♦:Q♦: and A♦:J♦: its really hard to call without reads.

If I was your villain I'm for sure shoving 8♦:9♦: and A♦:K♦: otf.

Shoving a set on flop seems really weird play. But without reads I'll fold.

OK fold.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

What a strange hand, dude.
Like guys said, I m not paying 100bb+ to see what happens here without info (Although I would love to see u paying here for we all discover what the hell he was holding hahaha)


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by marsa08
To me this shove looks a lot more like K♦:Q♦:,8♦:9♦: than a set. But since you block A♦:K♦: and A♦:Q♦: and A♦:J♦: its really hard to call without reads.

If I was your villain I'm for sure shoving 8♦:9♦: and A♦:K♦: otf.

Shoving a set on flop seems really weird play. But without reads I'll fold.

OK fold.

I agree, not holding the Ad would help, but maybe not enough to make this a call yet.


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MJQuads
Joined: 27.01.2008

Originally posted by YohanN7
The comforting thought is that you'll have enough sets (and even two pair if you are aggressive enough preflop) in your range to automatically get compensated. Notes are much more important than any amount of stats. Look at showdowns with this dude involved for free reads, but don't pay 100bb+ for the info.

How is he gonna have enough sets in this spot. In Fullring game it's a 3bet preflop with 55,77 and TT in this spot MP+1 vs UTG+1??


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

very fishy move by villain
folding is never bad but i would snap call and see AT, JJ,QQ,KK,some random FD more often than TT.. just count the combos and see how ahead are you with AA

if he does show up with 55, 77 then he deserves the pot because fish have to win too


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

I did tank most of my timebank considering exactly that Bonecore. I came down on the side of minimizing variance.

I still feel like this would be an OK call. Not to say it was a bad fold either.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by MJQuads

Originally posted by YohanN7
The comforting thought is that you'll have enough sets (and even two pair if you are aggressive enough preflop) in your range to automatically get compensated. Notes are much more important than any amount of stats. Look at showdowns with this dude involved for free reads, but don't pay 100bb+ for the info.

How is he gonna have enough sets in this spot. In Fullring game it's a 3bet preflop with 55,77 and TT in this spot MP+1 vs UTG+1??

You are right. Missed FR and our position.


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