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AJo - top pair - pot too big - going all-in on turn.

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robin261187
Joined: 04.01.2011

Hey, guys.

I think the bets on flop and turn were ok, the problem was the value of those bets, because of villain min-raise pre-flop and the two callers, my raise was too big. Because of that, I had to go all-in on the turn. I bet high on flop because of possibles flush draws.

If the pot were smaller, I would have played the same way, betting less, off course. But I was a little concerned of going all-in with top-pair, good kicker. Was it inevitable? Would any one have played differently? Should I not have bet on turn?

Villain is unknown, only 6 hands on him.

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 108.5 BB
UTG: 72 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 7.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 208)
MP: 97 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 231 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: 91 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: 77 BB (VPIP: 23.40, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 47)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ J♠

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB, fold

Flop: (38 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 8♠ A♦
Hero bets 30 BB, CO calls 30 BB, fold

Turn: (98 BB, 2 players) K♣
Hero bets 66.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 66.5 BB

River: (231 BB, 2 players) 4♣


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

No, with a re-raise I would keep aggression here as well with such a flop. WP IMO.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes. It is ok.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

This illustrates the downside of squeezing. Hitting less than two pair is equivalent to small win or huge loss. Most people have A♣:J♠: as the very bottom of the opening range UTG. Now you are in BB with three people having shown interest in the hand. You are not going to take this down preflop very often. You will either miss the flop or end up "hitting" it like here. Bad.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Vs 2 fish, looks good to me.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Vs 2 fish - marginally fine if you play well postflop. Vs 2 fish and an unknown - far from fine. Bad preflop stats doesn't necessarily mean that they are so bad that you can compensate for bad position.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You can easily turn a +EV preflop move into a big postflop loss. :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
You can easily turn a +EV preflop move into a big postflop loss. :)
That is unfortunately one of my specialties:(


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

It is OK to have some squeeze -> give ups, and to turn squeezes that should give up into bluff catchers when they hit dominated hands.

I'm probably betting the flop a bit more like half pot, then checking and evaluating the turn. I don't want to get AI here.

We had a discussion about a larger sample hand read where the consensus apparently was against using that read to define an 80VPIP as a fish and acting accordingly, so much so that it got highlighted and endorsed in the monthly review by Sven. I was the opposition of course and I think Sven and Nitrol are very wrong there, but even I'd be leery about overcommitting yet after 6 hands to exploiting CO (or 4 hands on BU) here.


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