KK set on wet board

I believe that you can fold top set on one to a straight board even though this is our best bluffcatcher.

Cant fold imo.
Board is connected and he donks.
He/she might donk with 2pair and other sets also.
Even thos you lose to Tx it´s a call

Is 4bb open your standard from MP?
I think I would call OTT. There is a small chance that villain has 99,JJ,QQ that he didn't raise OTF and if he has that T we still have 10 outs.

Did not notice that you gave stats for villain. He seems aggro and mabye we can then call with KK and fold the rest bluffcatchers. Against passive villain id lean torwards folding.

Originally posted by sebralane

Board is connected and he donks.

Villain can not donk bet as he is in position.

Originally posted by la55i
Is 4bb open your standard from MP?
I think I would call OTT. There is a small chance that villain has 99,JJ,QQ that he didn't raise OTF and if he has that T we still have 10 outs.

It would be just a weird line from villain to slowplay a set otf and then raise all in when the one to a straight card comes...

KJ,KQ then And these guys do sometimes something weird.

Isn't it better to check/call turn?
Normally that's less expensive to bluffcatch.

Villain didn't show aggression OTF. Why would we check when we hit strong?

Originally posted by sebralane
Cant fold imo.
Board is connected and he donks.
He/she might donk with 2pair

No-one is donking here. He raises.

Originally posted by marsa08
I believe that you can fold top set on one to a straight board even though this is our best bluffcatcher.

I agree with this. Notice that raise is a push.

Originally posted by marsa08
Did not notice that you gave stats for villain. He seems aggro and mabye we can then call with KK and fold the rest bluffcatchers. Against passive villain id lean torwards folding.

Villain's turn AF is not that huge. In this board sets are raising on flop. We should fold. If he by some sick idea bluffed us- good game, have fun. Most of the time we are vs a straight.

Originally posted by la55i
Villain didn't show aggression OTF. Why would we check when we hit strong?

We didn't hit strong. There is a straight possibility and what hands will call out bet?

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i
Is 4bb open your standard from MP?
I think I would call OTT. There is a small chance that villain has 99,JJ,QQ that he didn't raise OTF and if he has that T we still have 10 outs.

It would be just a weird line from villain to slowplay a set otf and then raise all in when the one to a straight card comes...

It will not be weird. It is impossible.
Even fish will raise sets and 2p there.

What you want here on this board: call his raise and see 80% of hands a 10 and have 10 outs.
Or check/call for around 1$ and hope to hit full house and may be he checks...
That's my decision..

Go for bigger bet otf. Either he has T or not, it's crystal-ball gazing.

Xc turn is more reasonable for me. We cannot be raised and we can see a river.

Imo we cannot get scared every time there is better hand possible. I already said that villain can have weaker sets and two pair. His range is not 100% T's. Ofc we can x/c but I don't think betting would be bad. Basically if we are going to check call we can bet ourselves too.

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i
Is 4bb open your standard from MP?
I think I would call OTT. There is a small chance that villain has 99,JJ,QQ that he didn't raise OTF and if he has that T we still have 10 outs.

It would be just a weird line from villain to slowplay a set otf and then raise all in when the one to a straight card comes...

It will not be weird. It is impossible.
Even fish will raise sets and 2p there.

I think that statement is as false as it can be. Fish are perfectly capable of slowplaying good hands. Their mind works like this: i don't want to scare people out of the pot. Very often they will raise sets and 2 pair but you cannot say that it is impossible.