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three of a kind vs 2 shoves

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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2918240
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UTG: $2.76 - VPIP: 65, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 2.4, Hands: 20
Hero (MP): $2.09
CO: $2.00
BTN: $3.91
SB: $0.85
BB: $1.90 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 7, 3B: 8, AF: 1.5, Hands: 27

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with A :diamond: Q :spade:
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, BB calls $0.06, UTG raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.06, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.43) A :spade: 2 :heart: 4 :spade: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.24, BB calls $0.24, UTG calls $0.22

Turn: ($1.15) A :heart: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18, BB raises to $1.52, UTG raises to $2.38, Hero ???

Can we call here?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Wow. The interest of BB really creates a problem. Against two reasonable players you'd have to fold, but here I don't know (only one reasonable player). Other than that, I'd raise the UTG turn bet in the first place.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

BB's move is so strong that i am leaning towards folding this on the turn. I doubt he would raise vs 2 with a draw. UTG could be overplaying an ace or a flushdraw but we will be behind bb quite often.

With so much money in the pot you should give BB a range of 22, 44, A2, A4, 35, AK, AQ, AJ, perhaps AT ? and see if you have a +ev call.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the preflop call. I like folding better.
I like the idea of raising the UTG on turn.
As played, I am not calling vs 2.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

This was just a strange one guys, but UTG was the one who had 53 (which held) and BB had 77 :roto2: Now, I really wonder why BB would raise so much here OTT... Anxiety? Inexperience? Isolating?
I perhaps had to bring up other people stats as well. They were more tight. Would you try to isolate UTG then as well?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

He is not just raising, he is pushing.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I mean pre-flop. Would you try to isolate UTG preflop when others are more tight (with no further info of what is coming on flop, turn, etc.)?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Lately villains that do such weird small raises preflop do not sow strong hands on showdown and even fold too much postflop.
So maybe I will try to isolate here. We can choose between that and fold.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Hesticus
This was just a strange one guys, but UTG was the one who had 53 (which held) and BB had 77 :roto2: Now, I really wonder why BB would raise so much here OTT... Anxiety? Inexperience? Isolating?
I perhaps had to bring up other people stats as well. They were more tight. Would you try to isolate UTG then as well?

The BB was bluffing. It might be rational to him. He might have previous reads on UTG and sees a small bet (previously indicating air that UTG will fold to a raise) followed by your (weak looking) call. People always make moves rational to them, and there's a chance BB simply made a good play. Making AQ fold is nice. But so is folding AQ:)


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Oly0909
Joined: 08.06.2008

Just want to add my 2 cents.
Preflop: Ok, maybe +1BB, but ok
Flop: raise bigger, at least 0,30
Turn: raise bigger, 0,75-0,8, easy call for remaining 0,75-0,80.
Bigger raises and easy call is because UTG plays really bed and can have ATC, and BB is not Full stack, so probably also not very good, meaning calling/shoving with any A or FD (I think he is even trying to represent an A as having A is nuts here in his head).


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