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Missed Draw in river, good spot to bluff?

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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $20 (100 bb)
BB: $34.39 (172 bb) VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1,7, Hands: 1061
UTG: $47.79 (239 bb) fish
MP: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $26.20 (131 bb)
BTN: $30.74 (153.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♦ K♦
UTG calls $0.20, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50) J♦ 7♦ 5♠ (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB raises to $3.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.30

Turn: ($9.50) 3♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.50) 8♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.30

Good spot to bluff?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Just check and move on.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yes.
When he checks twice I think it is safe to bluff. 8 completes some draws he might have raised OTF but he shouldn't check those OTR. We have very little showdown equity, maybe we beat QdTd but that's it.
Well played.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would check also. Your line seems too weird and easy to be spotted as a bluff imo.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

the spot is decent but sizing matters, i don't see how this sizing makes sense. i feel we should either bet about halfpot or bomb it, you don't need to bet this much to fold out the weaker part of his range and you aren't making random pairs fold


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

I do not think the villain is folding on the river with his monsters.
He checked the turn which is suspicious, but I still think he has a monster.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

But he checked river too. Would he check river with a monster when turn goes xx?


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

how is oppo cr flop?
river you should bluff,you're at the bottom of your range without sd value


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

Yes, I agree. He is checking too much and not betting the turn for value. He is missing value on the river again, strange line.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The problem is that we checked the turn too and he may like to call if we bet river.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

In spots like these I really save myself the misery and just check. Actually I am happy to see a free river. The reason why:

First of all, before the Turn, it was a multiway situation and Villain check-raised into 2 Players (which means a very strong range).
Second of all, he could be trapping on the turn and plans to check-raise again.

These reasons combined make me think Villain almost always has a hand he won't fold because the flushdraw misses! And from my experience, people LOVE to call on missed flushdraws.

Also: Imagine what you want to represent. Are you ever checking back a strong hand on the turn?


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

We lose to combo draws that turned/rivered a pair, 5x of diamonds and A high flush draws. Villain's line is so consistent with those kind of hands and so inconsistent with sets/2pair/top pair that bluffing seems like a good option OTR. A smallish bet would make sure we have the best odds to fold those hands out.


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