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2 pair on a 4 flush board

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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $16.91 (169.1 bb)
BB: $20.45 (204.5 bb)
UTG: $15.17 (151.7 bb)
MP: $5.49 (54.9 bb)
CO: $5.04 (50.4 bb)
BTN: $6.37 (63.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T♥: J♥:
UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.90, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.30) J♠: 7♣: T♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.46, BB calls $1.46

Turn: ($5.22) Q♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($5.22) 6♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB raises to $5.30, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$10.22 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: J♠: 7♣: T♠: Q♠: 6♠:
Hero mucked T♥: J♥: and lost (-$4.96 net)
BB mucked and won $9.76 ($4.80 net)

Pre std bluff 3bet for me.
OTF hit 2 pair so bet.
When he called he probably has something, at least a draw. Many of the draws just came there and some hands improved too. My plan was to check call this one because he still might have some bluffs if he bets and I still have 4 outs.
River brings a 4 flush there and I decided to bluff him. I don't see AJo with As calling pre that often maybe same thing with KQo with Ks. Board blocks flushes well. If he has AsKs with straight flush, good for him.

Villain 20/12 in 88 hands.

Bad bluff or good bluff?


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

I dont like bluffing here with such good showdownvalue hand. What better can villain have and fold, when he CB's turn?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think he shouldn't have that many flushes OTT considering that he cold called a preflop 3bet. AsQs, AsJs, AsTs and KsQs are all blocked. AsKs is sometimes 4betting preflop, but it might be in his cold calling range. So I think we can bet 1/2 the turn and fold vs a raise probably. As played, I think we can just check/fold the river. I don't see worse hands calling.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Totally agree with Seagal. There is no sense to turn your hand into bluff with betting river. You actually narrowed his range by 3b preflop vs UTG and than CB 2/3! Now u can't beat event 2sX.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

We should not raise this hand against utg as a standard imo. I'd bet OTT. As the river comes I do not bet.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

SBvsUTG my 3bet range is KK+ and some suited connectors as a bluff. I think it is very bad idea to start 3bet bluffing with merged range because when we get called we will very very often be dominated against UTG. This hand might hit hard and is more disguised and when it doesn't hit we can easily give it up.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

But if we flop a pair we are easily dominated. I would 3bet in this spot some lower connectors.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Actually we are not that dominated. UTG should call our 3bets with very tight range and if we hit J or T he really shouldn't have any higher Jx or Tx in his range. He can also call with 99,88 or even lower pocket pairs. And our hand is still quite easy to let go even if we hit a pair. Also JT can sometimes hit nut straights which gives UTG calling range 2pair or set or something and that is more money for us.

This hand is from weazel's ranges and I think I understand the reasons why it is decent 3bet bluff. I believe he has put many hours to develop good ranges and used several tools to make those as good as possible.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Well this is nasty but still we should not bet this river.


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