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Bluffing on a drawy low card board against UTG

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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.64 (26.4 bb)
BB: $9.01 (90.1 bb)
UTG: $9.10 (91 bb)
MP: $4.05 (40.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $11.72 (117.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♦: K♦:
UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 4♠: 5♥: 9♣: (2 players)
UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 7♣: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG calls $1.30

River: ($4.35) 6♦: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero?

Do you raise the flop as a bluff? The flop hits my calling range better than villians open raising range right? Sure it would be better to have at least a diamond on the flop..

On the turn my plan was to get him fold his overcards because it looked like he was giving up.

Another bullet OTR should now make him fold overpairs also...?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

How about folding this flop? You have 6 outs and even those might be dominated. I definitely wouldn't raise with this hand.
As played I think betting turn is decent option but then you have to barrel river again.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by chrischan0683
Do you raise the flop as a bluff?

Without a pecular reason to do so judging from infos about my opponent, nope, never.

Originally posted by chrischan0683
The flop hits my calling range better than villians open raising range right?

Well yes and no, the thing is he doesn't always need to hit the flop cause he can have all the OP and you're caped on that side...
Anyway it's not because you are calling at the CO and not raising UTG that suddenly you're playing way more 5x and 9x, right ?
All in all I don't see any reason to raise this flop, I dont' really see what you can represent, and I'm pretty sure nobody's balancing both a raising and a calling range on that kind of spot.

Originally posted by chrischan0683
Sure it would be better to have at least a diamond on the flop..

Indeed, that would make it ok to CALL rather than fold.

Originally posted by chrischan0683
Another bullet OTR should now make him fold overpairs also...?

I wouldn't be that optimistic. Think about all you can value sometimes when you're strong before hoping you can make random villains hero fold great hands when you are weak ;)


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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by chrischan0683
The flop hits my calling range better than villians open raising range right?

Well yes and no, the thing is he doesn't always need to hit the flop cause he can have all the OP and you're caped on that side...
Anyway it's not because you are calling at the CO and not raising UTG that suddenly you're playing way more 5x and 9x, right ?
All in all I don't see any reason to raise this flop, I dont' really see what you can represent, and I'm pretty sure nobody's balancing both a raising and a calling range on that kind of spot.

I could have some suited connectos like 67, 78, 89, 9T...?! But i dont raise this UTG.

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by chrischan0683
Another bullet OTR should now make him fold overpairs also...?

I wouldn't be that optimistic. Think about all you can value sometimes when you're strong before hoping you can make random villains hero fold great hands when you are weak ;)

Good point.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by chrischan0683
I could have some suited connectos like 67, 78, 89, 9T...?! But i dont raise this UTG.

I do play them UTG and find them easily playable, but what I meant when I said you don't have more 9x and 5x than him is that any hand which is strong enough to be called CO vs UTG is supposed to be strong enough to be opened UTG so you haven't any range advantage here imo.


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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by chrischan0683
I could have some suited connectos like 67, 78, 89, 9T...?! But i dont raise this UTG.

I do play them UTG and find them easily playable, but what I meant when I said you don't have more 9x and 5x than him is that any hand which is strong enough to be called CO vs UTG is supposed to be strong enough to be opened UTG so you haven't any range advantage here imo.

Ahh ok, if I consider UTG playing these kind of hands then I don't have a range advantage. ATM Im playing w34z3ls "Walkthrough series"-ranges and there you don't play these hands from UTG but you cold call some of them IP. ;)


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Geez, that damned w34z3l, always destroying my arguments with his weird ranges
More seriously, why not but the few 9x you'll get won't compensate for the fact that you are caped and that villains can have all the overpairs.
That's part of the reason raising 9x here seems pretty ridiculous to me.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

UTG 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AJo+, KQo

UTG opening range from w34z3l's walkthrough series.. You said there is not suited connectors?


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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Originally posted by la55i

UTG 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AJo+, KQo

UTG opening range from w34z3l's walkthrough series.. You said there is not suited connectors?

Wow. Maybe there is something wrong in my Equilab for the UTG opening range. Have to check this immediately!!

Thanks dude! :f_drink:


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would fold OTF. As played I think your line is ok, and should work very well. 6 OTR is amazing card and you should fire a bet there imo. That should represent straight, which you can easily have, given the fact you are on CU. On the contrary, villain is UTG and he shouldn´t be connected with this board in any way.

However, to do this move, I would choose my opponent carefuly.


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