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AQs, NF draw, BD OESD outs and overcards on the flop facing reraise shove on the turn

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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
BB: $12.85 (128.5 bb)
UTG: $9.90 (99 bb)
MP: $13.10 (131 bb)
CO: $24.20 (242 bb)
BTN: $17.73 (177.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♥: Q♥:
UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1) 7♥: 9♥: T♣: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.80, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.60) Q♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $7.80, Hero?

C/R flop OK with nutouts BDOESD and overcards?

What would be your line on the turn. Is x/c better now since we have showdownvalue? Do you call his shove? If we are not good here, we have our nut outs and sometimes a Q or an A.. If villian has a set wouldn't he be reraising directly on the drawy? I guess i would do so if im in his shoes..


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Pre you could squeeze but calling should be fine too.
OTF nutFD+overs is fine to check raise.
OTT you should continue barreling but I'm not sure about the bet size. Now that we hit TPTK on top of our FD, maybe we should underbet? Around 30% bet might generate as much folds as 1/2, you might be behind and you would not be so committed if villain shoves.

As played I think it is close. Depends on villain and his range. Calling shouldn't be terrible but I don't think you will make tons of money by calling his shove.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I like calling flop but x/r is ok.
OTT if you don't wanna be confronted to that kind of raise, don't bet ;)
I would insta call and let it roll, but it's clear that this kind of spot isn't EV+ by far...


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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
I like calling flop but x/r is ok.

What's the advantage of calling over raising here in your opinion? Since we don't have a made hand we are happy if we take the pot down here or not? If villian calls my raise and a heart hits OTT continue betting fits our story better than X/C flop, donk turn. Or would you X/C flop and check turn trying to C/R (if a heart hits)? Assuming we dont have a read that villian likes to fire turn again.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

The thing is that hand is a little too strong to fit well as a bluff raise and a little too weak to fit well as a value raise, so raising doesn't accomplish a lot and rather tends to simplify things for villains.
On the contrary keeping nut draws in our calling range can be quite deceptive and even when it's not it's really effective anyway.

I'm not calling flop to donk the turn, except when I have a specific read that inclines me to try to exploit villain that way, which isn't happening every day to say the least :]
Depending on the villain and the turn card (it's not just as simple as "heart or not heart"), I would chose to x/c again or to x/r now. Hard to be more precise because in a vacuum it should be close.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would 3 bet preflop, but as said above, calling is ok too imo. I don´t raise with flush, because I play micros, so no need to do it imo. However if u do it, it´s no problem. OTT I would fold... He raises after you raised him OTF, which indicates strength to me.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Check-raising or check-calling flop isn't all about our hand. I'd say villain's typical range blends in pretty well on that flop. Fold equity is diminished. For instance, a K♦:J♦: might decide to make it tough for us, J♠:J♥: isn't going anywhere, etc. All sets are there and medium suited connectors hit.

A flop like 5♥:7♥:8♣: would be far better to attack than 7♥:9♥:T♣:.

It is also my personal preference to semi-bluff with smaller cards. That way fold equity really means something, like with T♣:9♣: or perhaps 6♠:6♦: on that smaller board.


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