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NNNexX
Joined: 11.11.2007

IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $4.24 (106 bb)
BB: $2.57 (64.3 bb)
CO: $7.47 (186.8 bb)
BTN: $4 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T♥: 6♥:
CO raises to $0.12, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB folds, CO calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.64) 2♥: 9♠: 5♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.32, CO calls $0.32

Turn: ($1.28) 3♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.64, CO calls $0.64

River: ($2.56) J♥: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Results:

Spoiler

$2.56 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: 2♥: 9♠: 5♦: 3♦: J♥:
Hero mucked T♥: 6♥: and lost (-$1.26 net)
CO showed A♥: J♣: and won $2.39 ($1.13 net)

Villain ist ein TAG Multitabler gegen den ich hier light defended habe.
Wenn ich mich am Flop für eine Cbet entscheide muss ich bereit sein hier zwei Barrels zu feuern um das Overpair zu reppen und ihn von seinen Pockets/Overcards runter zu kriegen.
Wie spielt ihr das?
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Villain is a TAG Multitabler against whom I defende lightly this time.
If I decide to cbet the flop imo I have to be willing to fire two barrels to rep the overpair and get him off his pockets/overcards. How do you play this?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Too loose preflop again.
What does the turn card change so you continue to bet?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think this went wrong on every street. The 3bet is too loose imo. You have a crap hand OTF so I would not continue bluffing if you don't know villain will fold too much for sure. Continuing barreling without improving OTT is a mistake too.


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NNNexX
Joined: 11.11.2007

Can you elaborate why you don't want to cbet in a 3bet pot?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

The fact that you did 3bet doesn't mean you should cbet. If you believe villain is folding too much and you get autoprofit, then it is ok. Otherwise it is not. Your hand is bad and you have very little equity against villains calling range.


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NNNexX
Joined: 11.11.2007

But a TAGs calling range in position in a blind steal situation against a 3bet might look something like this
99-QQ, KQ, AJ+

So he is likely to fold half of his range against flop aggression, but a half potsize bet is already profitable if he fold 35% of the time (even if you do not consider improvement on further streets). Where am I wrong?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The turn bet is too much for me.
On flop you have backdoors so betting is not totally bad.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by NNNexX
So he is likely to fold half of his range against flop aggression, but a half potsize bet is already profitable if he fold 35% of the time (even if you do not consider improvement on further streets). Where am I wrong?

That is right. Low boards are usually very difficult to defend for the 3bet caller. This means you probably make a small profit by cbetting anything. So I can sort of agree with the flop bet, but because villain doesn't call you very often it means your turn bet is very bad.

To be honest, the problems start preflop. This 3bet is way too wide. It doesn't matter if you have slightly profitable cbet OTF when pre you are risking 8bb to see the flop with your bluff. This means villain can let you make autoprofit on some boards and still you are not making money.
With this hand you will very often flop badly. This means the outcome of this hand will be negative on the long run.


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NNNexX
Joined: 11.11.2007

Yeah I think the turn bet is pretty bad since we assume that he does not call the flop with a lot of hands (just look what he shows on the showdown though )
For preflop: I sometimes 3bet loosely against multitabling TAGs to balance my table image and keep their stealing in check (as well as profiting from them stealing loose and folding almost their entire range to a 3bet). We also are 4handed so his range might be even wider. I rather do this with suited hands that I'm not dominated with than with Ax or Kx. So imo the 3bet preflop is not that bad since it's not a standard move, rather a situational play.

Thanks for going more in-depth on this one!


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