NL10 ~ Ak

I think you cannot call on turn. 2 overs( not clear outs)+GS is not enough.

You need 23% to break even. I didn't put villain on a range but I would say you have 10-20%. But it is so close that I don't blame you for calling.

Are you familiar with the rule of 4 and 2? OTF multiply your outs with 4 and you get your equity. OTT multiply it with 2 (actually if you multiply with 2 and then add 1 you get more accurate result).
By using this you can figure out at the table that if all of your 10 outs are at play you will have about 21% equity. Then you just remember that calling a half pot bet requires 25% so you know it is a fold.

Originally posted by la55i
You need 23% to break even. I didn't put villain on a range but I would say you have 10-20%. But it is so close that I don't blame you for calling.

Are you familiar with the rule of 4 and 2? OTF multiply your outs with 4 and you get your equity. OTT multiply it with 2 (actually if you multiply with 2 and then add 1 you get more accurate result).
By using this you can figure out at the table that if all of your 10 outs are at play you will have about 21% equity. Then you just remember that calling a half pot bet requires 25% so you know it is a fold.

i did once upon a time know this rule but can honestly say i never put it into practice.
So OTF i have 10 outs, x4 = 40% so the flop call is fine.
Cheers lassie.

It is ok if you see both turn and river.

Yea that is an important thing, the 4x is from flop to river. So you would win 40% if you went all in there. But since you are calling and villain is often going to bet the turn too, it is safer to use the 2x rule or something in between on the flop too when deciding whether to call with your draw or not.