[Closed] 2 hands 2/4 FR

1) I think this one is good. Villain might have hit nothing on the flop but coudl have 3-betted the flop with overcards as well. --> calldown

2) Calldown against turn raise and villain's line is crap indeed :).

1) @epic: he foldet the river on hand 1 = whats that?

in this hand u should raise the turn for free SD. U have a decent chance, that KK or Qx may fold the ace on the turn. if he threebets u cant fold due to ur str8 outs, but u should give villain the chance to lay down a better hand.

2) puh..so aggressive? call it down. there are no obvious draws u can drench by three betting here.

I just coulnd't imagine what villain could 3-bet preflop and not have hit on the river. I mean it's all there: Ace, Queen, Straight, Flush. The only thing that doesn't beat me is 99 which is quite improbable. And I don't think it is highly probable that he folds for this raise. Even the outs on my set aren't clean as are the outs on the Straight... The Pot is relatively small and I just wasn't sure if my raise for a free showdown would have worked.

Original von OnkelHotte
1) @epic: he foldet the river on hand 1 = whats that?

in this hand u should raise the turn for free SD. U have a decent chance, that KK or Qx may fold the ace on the turn. if he threebets u cant fold due to ur str8 outs, but u should give villain the chance to lay down a better hand.

Oh sorry, I didn't see that he folded, call of course. And I think your line is quite good here.

Original von Wiseguy
I just coulnd't imagine what villain could 3-bet preflop and not have hit on the river. I mean it's all there: Ace, Queen, Straight, Flush. The only thing that doesn't beat me is 99 which is quite improbable. And I don't think it is highly probable that he folds for this raise. Even the outs on my set aren't clean as are the outs on the Straight... The Pot is relatively small and I just wasn't sure if my raise for a free showdown would have worked.

then you must fold the turn.

this turn is a raise or fold turn here! I would raise it!

After thinking about it, I think folding is quite weak but shouldn't be that wrong. I don't think I'm ahead often enough to make this play. After all we are investing 2BB to win 6 (if we don't improve on the river and can take the free showdown) or 5 even if he folds to our raise.
I don't think the potsize justifies that much headache...

Original von Wiseguy
After thinking about it, I think folding is quite weak but shouldn't be that wrong. I don't think I'm ahead often enough to make this play. After all we are investing 2BB to win 6 (if we don't improve on the river and can take the free showdown) or 5 even if he folds to our raise.
I don't think the potsize justifies that much headache...

its close here. anyway U have outs, that lower the effecitve costs of ur raise here in the turn.