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flop and turn decision with TP+FD vs min donk OOP MW SRP

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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 121 BB (VPIP: 51.67, PFR: 14.10, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 15,201)
MP: 96 BB (VPIP: 49.06, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 5.22, Hands: 14,055)
CO: 139 BB (VPIP: 51.37, PFR: 14.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 13,970)
BTN: 88.25 BB (VPIP: 48.47, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.92, Hands: 12,995)
SB: 103 BB (VPIP: 50.70, PFR: 14.66, 3Bet Preflop: 5.72, Hands: 14,654)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ K♦ 6♣ Q♣

UTG calls 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (5 BB, 5 players) 3♥ 5♣ K♣
SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 7.75 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 6.75 BB

Turn: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 3♠
SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) K♥
SB bets 38.5 BB, fold

Flop I have no idea what to do. calling seems bad because our made hand and draws will rarely win at showdown but could see also a call be good. raising seems now the worse because higher FDs still call behind and better made hands kill me. folding seems weak. So I think call is best. I think villain can be min donking with set or bare 13 outer or nFD or or 2p or somthing like that. turn i bet again to charge draws or make them fold but i could be dead so probably check back turn.


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potyka007
Joined: 01.09.2007

Hi,

In this situation we would like to go to showdown with fair price, so i do not raise any street.

Turn i think chb. We have SD value.

River is interesting.

Flop minbet/call is usually draw. If he has a set or better, he 3 bet.

K3 i think raise on turn.

So, i think the river is call.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

5way raising flop with top pair and 2nd nut flush draw isn't a great plan. Call flop and see how the hand goes on.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

I think it's fine to raise flop (wouldn't pot it though) against 1bb donks.

Turn could go either way, as there is benefits to bet too. You can usually evaluate river then, will you take showdown, bluff or value K or flush. Also youve some FE against hands that have equity light straight-draws.

River as played is tough. I mean, you're quite high in hand value, you're continuing with boats, AK and next best is this. But usually such weird pot donks mean they somehow have it (fishes), so I guess folding is best, unless youve reads he's aggro / bluffing such bad spots.


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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

Thanks for the input guys, truly. River I think he might have K3 most of the time or AK so that's why I folded.


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