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I’m not too familiar with PLO and especially with 3bet ranges, but now you are making a 3bet bluff for sure and now you get a 4bet of a player that most like has a AAxx combo and I would most likely fold. We could easily end up with the 2nd best hand if we hit 1 of our potential flushed.

As played the turn bet of him looks like a block bet and I don’t think he would play a FH or flush like this and I think you have most of the time the best hand and is calling fine I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987

You're in the world of hurt this hand because of too wide 3b

I think heads up we can call 4b now that we decided to 3b and BTN folded.

Flop is troublesome, you've a nice piece of this board but villain bets quite big even when this is a dangerous board for weak aces.

Turn he definitely should bet NF, you will not have FH ever (because money would be all in on the flop) but can have smaller flushes or Kxxx which range he crushes with NF. You're playing pure bluffcatcher with your small flush here.

I cant figure why he bluffed turn but then just gave up, maybe he though his hand could actually be best and fold out straightdraws or something, seems bad idea imo.

Call of the 4 bet is fine, the three bet itself is ill advised.

Originally posted by ZakYoun270
Call of the 4 bet is fine, the three bet itself is ill advised.

Zak, are you just folding pre, then or defending passively vs BU open?

Thanks, others for comments - makes sense.

I think this is a pretty clear fold pre.
The hand has very poor connectivity and not very many high cards. It has poor removal vs AKKx and AAxx, which increases the chance to get 4bet. As our 3bet is rather unlikely to generate a fold by BTN as people rarely fold to 3bets (as they should) and he is IP. Thus we have to consider our postflop playability. Out poorly connected low hand often flops weak pairs, gutshots and not nut fds. At an SPR of 3.5 vs BTN we often have to cbet to protect our hand and Btn has a very easy time to play perfect against us the times we do cbet and steal the pots from us if we do not cbet.
Once we 3bet the hand is trivial. We get direct odds vs AAxx (41.09%). BB will almost always have to bet/GII and we can realize enough equity to justify our call pre.
In this spot we will never call the flop. If we have enough equity, we will just jam over a cbet. Calling has the issue that we have to play turn, which out hand does poorly oop. If we call flop, see a blank and face a shove on the turn, we might have to fold a lot of equity. In this particular case we flopped 56.26% equity (vs random AAxx) and we are very happy if villain folds (he actually has 48.84% equity).
As for calling pre: We will most likely go 3way to flop. Even if we flop a good piece of the flop, if we get a good amount of action we will often be dominated by similar slightly more connected hand, which crushes us. These kind of hands play very poor oop without the lead multiway as you often have to fold out a lot of equity vs a cbet or if you fight back, get the money in bad. They just flop a hand you can stack off way to rarely.

Really helpful - thanks So basically, as played you like x/shove flop? Does it matter we are 140bb deep (apart from being in the hand being worse in the first place)?