PokerStars now hides rake in the fine print of Tournament Lobbies!

Damn, you're right. Not a good step, Pokerstars becoming more and more dubious.

Yeah, this is becoming ridiculous...

Make sure that you let PokerStars how you feel...

All the best,
VS

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Make sure that you let PokerStars how you feel...

All the best,
VS

Exactly, don't play there

But its good for the recs, right?

Now, when they are less confused about the $X+$Y Tourney fees, they are gonna play more tourneys and strenghten up the poker economy.

Ty Stars!!!!

In the old method, it just said $200 + 15 -- no mention of where the $15 was going (or the $200 either).
Now it explicitly tells the player "retained by PokerStars"

Yes, it is buried on the Structure page, but it is more clearly defined.

Did anyone actually contact PokerStars about this?
If so what reply did you get?

Cheers,
VS

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNER

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Make sure that you let PokerStars how you feel...

All the best,
VS

Exactly, don't play there

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You think that's sneaky? Sometime an irish guy turns up in the middle of your hand and sweeps away the pot so he can pay for his dinner for the night.

same some many adder poker site look on 888 poker look on many more

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They actually have 3% conversion in my country...

Why is this a problem for you? When you play roulette you bet $1, not 0.97+0.03, or if you play slots you bet 0.20 not 0.19+0.01, or if you play BJ you bet $100 not $99+$1. And not to mention sports beting, calculations what the house is taking are much more complex and very few people know how to calculate it. Yeah rec players know that the house is making money, but they don't like to be reminded that they pay for it. That's why Stars made the change. They don't hide anything and those who want to know will know.

Transparency, dude!
Okay, lets say its good for recs. They should at least put a setting that you can turn on and see the fee you are paying...

Otherewise they can make the rake like 40% in MTTs and we will have no idea when we play a gigantic player pool tournament. Who in their right mind would go adding all the prize levels together?

Personally, I find the current way to be more transparent.
On the main tab of the tournament lobby you see exactly what you pay.

On the structure tab, you see the full breakdown of where that money goes.
You also see a complete breakdown of what percentage goes to each position.

Perhaps both points of view could be covered if you could hover your mouse over the buy-in and see the breakdown.
However people who don't look at the structure page aren't likely to care anyway.
People who do look at that page wouldn't need the breakdown.

Peace,
VS

@Vorpal,
Yeah that makes sense. Lets hope they do this.
I also spoke too soon, because you can always divide the total prizepool by the number of players... But it hard not to get triggered these days when it comes to pokerstars

Originally posted by atton64
New games will probably have higher rake as we see, along with no rakeback. So better hide all the rake structure, even the ones not affected. Or maybe could we expect some games to have higher rake soon?

If they would do this we get a lot more firework of all players I think with complaining and then I expect they will lose a lot of players. I don’t think they have the intention to do this or they think we are stupid.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Pokerstars: "Since our Stars Rewards program is not a traditional volume-based rakeback program, we don't see as important to display the rake at the tournaments anymore."

Source: tweet from SrslySirius

Logic ftw

Just. Stop. Playing. There.

I don't know if they have the intention but they really thinks that we are stupid.
That is for sure.

I don’t think they think we are stupid. That would be insane if they think like that, because we as customers are important for PokerStars.

Cheers,
SDK1987