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Why aren't there "Blank" cards online?

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I say that purely from the simplest point of view. Have you ever noticed that if there is a shove and a call and the board is sitting a certain way, it never just misses. Where is the off suited 4 when you've got two pair vs. a flush or broadway draw? It never happens online. It's like the software is "focused," for lack of a better word, on the values of the deck there are being played.

For example, board read Kh-Tc-6s-9c. Hero is all in holding T9suited. Villain calls with JToff. 10 outs. 4 Qs, 3 Js, 3 Ks. Now, almost without question one of the following things will occur.

1. MOST often, the board will pair. The six pairs, they chop. The 9 or T pair, Hero improves to a useless boat, the K pairs, the villain wins. Despite the overwhelming odds against it, the board will pair in this scenario more than any other result.

2. A Q falls. This happens very frequently despite it being a statistical unlikelihood.

3. An A falls. Almost without question, an Ace will be the "blank" that completes this board more than any other card, and I would go so far as to say that the odds of an A hitting the river are about the same as all the other blanks combined.

4. The J falls. THIS, for some reason, does not seem to occur that often. Computer software does not tend to give a higher two pair on the river very often unless pairing the board is involved. I'm not sure why that is. But the T or Q are far more likely to hit than the J.

5. A "blank" hits. Where are all the 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8? There should be FAR more of them than the other cards. 24 to be exact. Including the A, there are 28 blanks in the deck, 10 outs, 3 boat makers, 2 choppers and the 9 cards in play.

Factoring in the likelihood that a higher percentage of the blank cards were folded, I would expect there to be about a 50/50 chance of a blank hitting. Yet, it's not even close to being the case. I would venture to guess that the odds of a blank hitting that river would be around 20-25%. And around 16-20% for all non-Aces.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Hi prodigalchild,

It sure feels that way sometimes but it might be because human brain just remembers the bad beats better than the times you win. I believe that if we get big enough sample it will be close to the frequency it should be.
Now you feel like your made hands never hold and villain always hits a magical river. Yesterday I felt totally opposite. I went all-in a couple of times with a combo draw but I never hit.


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Hi la55i,

I'm not necessarily saying there are bad beats all the time. What I am saying is that the useless "blank" cards don't seem to hit the board online as much as they should. I see "action" cards more often online as opposed to live games and it makes me wonder if there is something inherent in the software's RnG that makes a difference as opposed to a pure live random event. For example, if the random card generator takes certain things into account, such as player stack size, or the time it takes a player to make an action, the randomness of the card draw will not, in fact, be random. There will be external factors as play. My point is that it simply seems to me that the cards that are currently being played in a hand have a higher likelihood of finding the board online. The danger is that "what if the reason the cards are falling on the flop, turn and river is BECAUSE they are being played?"

For example, should I be holding 4-6 off and fold, and two other players see a flop, the board might come 9-J-Q. BUT, if I were to decide to play those two cards in the same hand and the other two players play as well, the flop might come out 3-5-J, or something, putting my hand on a good draw. The problem I have with that is that in live poker, the deck is set. The flop cannot change regardless of how many players play the hand. Online, the flop is changed based on the actions of the players. The flop, turn and river are not set after the cards are dealt as is the case in live poker. BECAUSE of this, there is always a chance that the software RnG can change the outcome of the hand based upon the way the players are playing the hand, not just on the shuffle (as is the case when playing live).


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't know how other poker rooms do the shuffle but here is a video about pokerstars rng:

I think all of the major poker sites have some kind of 3rd party verification. If the rng wouldn't be random I think high volume grinders would figure this out quite quickly.
You also need a huge sample size to draw any conclusions. Even 10k hands would be way too small sample and that already means you have played over 300 hours live.


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