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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
Stacks:
UTG ($116.2BB) 116bb
CO ($70.4BB) 70bb
BTN Hero ($100BB) 100bb
SB ($106.2BB) 106bb
BB ($115.8BB) 116bb
Pre-Flop: (1.4BB, 5 players) Hero is BTN A♦: A♣:

I think I could have chosen a bigger sizing.

1 fold, CO raises to 2BB, Hero raises to 6BB, 1 fold, BB calls 5BB, CO calls 4BB

Flop: 5♦: 3♣: 2♠: ($18.4BB, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8BB, BB calls 8BB, CO folds
Turn: 4♥: ($34.4BB, 2)
BB bets 24.8BB, Hero calls 24.8BB
River: 8♥: ($84BB, 2)
BB goes all-in 77BB, Hero goes all-in 61.2BB

This was a bad call I believe. He is never gonna shove here for split.

Final Pot: $222.2BB
Hero shows a straight, Ace to Five
A♦: A♣:
BB shows a straight, Deuce to Six
6♥: 6♠:
BB wins $213.6BB (net +$97.8BB)
CO collects $0BB (net -$6BB)
Hero lost $100BB


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petshark
Joined: 21.01.2018

This was a bad call I believe. He is never gonna shove here for split.

I'm a beginner so no advise from me but can't you go all-in when you think it's going to be a split pot just because you have nothing to lose but you might have fold equity? If villain is fishy he might fold, not realizing that everything points at a split pot.

There are times when I thought afterwards that I should have done just that instead of checking because you know it's going to be split. I'm still in NL2 so could be this might only work down here. :f_cool:


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

If he calls, then in the best case it's gonna be split right.. so if I went all in and he'd call I would just build up the pot and that would lead to a bigger rake. And I believe he will call, because after he donks OTT I expect him to have that straight. But I'm also just an NL5 player so my opinion may be wrong.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

In poker it is called "the idiot end" of the straight. Now you know why...

About the above opinion to go AI in split situation - it is not ok to do so. The rake will eat you a lot of money and you are not earning anything.


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petshark
Joined: 21.01.2018

I had not considered the rake at all. Thanks for the advice.


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

Well I dunno if I'd played this hand any differently. I think the preflop sizing is good, maybe a you can go a bit bigger, like 8 bb.

Villain donking on the turn looks scary, so I'd get suspicious here, but I'm not sure if you could get away from this hand.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

I think preflop is OK. You want a caller or maybe even a steal (but you got a multi way pot, that sucks).

Bet bigger on the flop (at least 10BB) because you have a very good hand and a very good draw and a shit load of players in the hand whom you want do deny their equity.

When villain donks on the turn ALL alarm bells should start ringing. You can not fold the turn of course.

When you were me, the river fold would have been easy (see my just started 'challenge' here..)

But I know from experience how hard it is to get away from a hand like this.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

think it's a clear fold. AX only plays this way when he's retarded, and you block 2 Aces, so it's better to call here with AK and better to fold AA.


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