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JJ UTGvsCO nitty fold river?

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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

OTF quite standard cbet for value. I dont want to cbet bigger, because this flop doesnt hit his range so much.

OTT: Thats questiobale, because I am not sure if I have a 3 streets of value here. I analyzed it and I found out that is really close. But I dont want to get raise. And pot control looks fine imo. I would play this way most of my bluffs, so its also fine to balance my checking range. And now he can easily bet his flats and I wanted to call him twice.

OTR: on river like this I dont see many bluffs here. Because all Ax hands he shouldnt bet twice, because they have a showdown value and then he could bluff OTT some KQ,QJ,QT,AQ which are now two pairs. Worse twopairs he shouldnt bet twice. On blank river like J or less I would simply call.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 70.1 BB (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 46.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (UTG): 127 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 269.6 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: 78.2 BB (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 7.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 78)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♠ J♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) T♠ 5♥ T♣
Hero bets 3.6 BB, CO calls 3.6 BB

Turn: (14.7 BB, 2 players) 4♠
Hero checks, CO bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

River: (28.7 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, CO bets 14 BB, fold

CO wins 27.4 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You are playing against a fish and then I wouldn’t be surprised you could value bet for 3 streets if off course no over card or flush will come on the river. You see sometimes weird Ax calls and flush draws on boards like this and I would value bet the turn for sure.

The rives is tricky and I think folding is fine against a loose passive player like him or you have crazy reads on him.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

Not necessary he has to be a fish. You know really small sample size (15hands). So I played my defeault strategy. I admit that against fish bet bet bet is the best option for sure. But I would rather for comments like what would you do against standard reg in this spot. (Check or bet turn? and call or fold river?)


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Ai... I misread.

I could find a fold too but I would have bet the turn myself.


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Vherrero
Joined: 11.03.2015

flop: I think i would check/call flop there isn't much value by betting this board and you can easily call for value in this spot!
turn: since you betted flop i think this turn card is a mandatory barrel (you turned your hand in a bluff by betting flop so you should barrel again to be able to fold random high cards floats
river: as played folding here is fine but depending on reads i would call this half pot bet (if villain is fishy enough)


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

But if I check the flop, then he can easily check back with all Ax hands and take a free card.
OTT: This card doesn't change anything, so I would quite often give up my bluffs on this blank turn. So its also reasonable to have some value hands here.


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