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(FR) AQo - TPTK in 3-bet pot

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

SB is unknown. MP and MP+1: only stats.

$0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.97, PFR: 10.74, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 685)
UTG: 79 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG+1: 50 BB (VPIP: 27.94, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.40, Hands: 250)
MP: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 98)
MP+1: 38.5 BB (VPIP: 18.88, PFR: 7.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 143)
Hero (MP+2): 100 BB
CO: 38.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 140 BB (VPIP: 11.03, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 145)
SB: 40 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ A♣
Thoughts:

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I believe I'm ahead of MP OR range and I have position over both opponents, so I squeezed.

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 11.5 BB, fold, MP calls 9 BB, fold

Flop: (40 BB, 3 players) Q♣ 8♥ T♦
Thoughts:

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In 3-betted pots, how bigger should a cbet be with TPTK?
I went for 1/2 pot because the pot was already big.

SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 21 BB, SB calls 21 BB, fold

Turn: (82 BB, 2 players) 9♣
Thoughts:

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The 9 completes a str8 draw, but, at this point, considering the villain stack, I wouldn't fold anyway to his bet or raise.

SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 7 BB and is all-in

River: (96 BB, 2 players) 6♦

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Hero shows Q♥ A♣ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 75%, Turn 2%)
SB shows J♣ J♠ (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 57%, Flop 25%, Turn 98%)
SB wins 90 BB


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Preflop: AQo I agree with you that has a good equity related to MP whole range, but, when he flat calls your squeeze I supposed he folded a big part of his range and keep just hands with excellent equity.
SB calls was a complicated point as he probrably narrowed down his range of cold call.

Flop: This board texture is complicated in a multiway pot, should bet 1/2 pot was ok because of texture. There are a bunch of outs that could help villains range.

OTT: What ranges SB villain will keep calling you? 88-AA and draws - because of that barreling is mandatory or you were way behind or way ahead.


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Tonyx86
Joined: 28.03.2018

In 3bet pots iam cbetting between 1/3 and 1/2 pot. We hit a solid flop and should have the best hand very often. In multiway pots iam cbetting almost always for value with at least TPTK or hands with good implieds. In this case, considering villains stack, i would have bet exactly those 28 BB.

Against a bigger stack the hand is done OTT if he bets.


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In 3bet spots the cbet should be accordingly board texture and how much equity do you have + fold equity.
We bet for 2 reasons:
Value
Bluff
and collect dead Money is connected with one of 2's


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MrQNo
Joined: 30.09.2006

I’m not totally happy with the squeeze. As BTN after MP+2 raising and CO calling ... ok. But it is MP who is raising, and i tend to give him a bit more credit. After his call, he has a premium pair, a premium A or KQ. JJ, TT, AQ, AJs, KQs. SB can have anything like small pairs, sc, Axs.

OTF, you have TPTK, MP is no problem, he defintely has no big draw on this board. He has a better pair or a set (TT), or he has not. The only draw is AJ. And he might have a worse TP. wa/wb. BUT ... SB can have a straight, 88, an OESD, a gutshot with or without a pair ... you cannot know. But since there are a lot of draws possible, you have to protect. Even in a big pot, on that wet board and against two opponents, i would bet higher than 1/2. And looking at the stack of SB, i would set him all-in.

OTT, you are toast. But as you say ... 7BB in a 82 bb (+7 bb from his call) ... pot odds are too good. You have to win once in 13 hands. And occassionally, you will see 87s and no 6 otr.


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